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08/04/2003 Entry: "The Ecto Cooler Saga CONTINUES..."

I promise, this is the last time I'll ever write about Ecto Cooler. Bear with me. I'm obsessed.

You might remember this post from late June, where I mentioned Hi-C's "Orange Lavaburst" flavor as being a reincarnated Ecto Cooler. I didn't solve the mystery myself, but after repeatedly reading fans' cries, I gave the fruity juice a shot and agreed. From where I sat -- in a broken chair littered with cig burns and what appeared to be nail polish -- Orange Lavaburst was Ecto Cooler. Or was it?

For those who've forgotten, "Ecto Cooler" was a Hi-C juice brand with Slimer of The Real Ghostbusters fame on the box. Though Hi-C has gotten a bit wackier with their flavor names over the years, Ecto Cooler was the first "novelty" drink in the line. Kids went nuts for the shit. This was a fad that transcended our usual young geeky interests, as children didn't really have to be into toys or cartoons to get down with the Ecto. Regardless of what you felt about Ghostbusters, few were going to skip the one juice box with a mysteriously vague name and a green monster on the box.

The beverage outlived all other Ghostbusters novelties, delivering Slimer to a generation of kids who'd barely even heard of his offshoot cartoon. Unfortunately, like Chris Elliot sitcoms and "Quackers" snack crackers, all good things come to an end. Ecto Cooler eventually disappeared, leaving behind a legion of fans who weren't quite ready to give up a taste they'd inadvertently become addicted to. We bought the juice because of Slimer, but somewhere along the way, we got hooked on the flavor.

That's where it gets interesting...

I claimed that "Orange Lavaburst" was Ecto Cooler Version II, and many seemed to agree. Others were skeptical, and with good reason. They argued that Ecto Cooler was back, but not as Orange Lavaburst. No, if these naysayers were to be believed, Ecto Cooler was reborn as an entirely different brand of Hi-C juice. Today, we experiment to uncover the truth. Which current Hi-C flavor is really Ecto Cooler?

According to some, "Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen" is the new Ecto Cooler. Their many arguments include the following:

1) Shoutin' Tangergreen has a strong emphasis on...well, "green." Ostensibly, "green" equals "Slimer."

2) Many remember Ecto Cooler as having "tangerine" as part of the flavor cornucopia. Shoutin' Tangergreen shares that trait, Orange Lavaburst does not. :P

3) Lavaburst's "box icon" is a simple orange. Tangergreen's icon is a ghastly, deep green "mouth." Obviously, green mouths seem more in tune with Slimer than a silly orange.

Admittedly, I seem to recall viewing a few Ecto Cooler ads in print that played up the citrus mix of oranges and tangerines. This factored with the new flavor's "green scheme" painted my previous posts as efforts in STUPAD IGNORAAAACE, but hey, let's find out for sure this time. Here's the listed ingredients for both flavors, with the differences highlighted in bold...

Orange Lavaburst: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange And Tangerine Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

So, what have we established? Aside from a modicum of tangerine juice, they're exactly the same. I refuse to accept that the key to this mystery lies solely in a vial of concentrated tangerine juice, so our champion remains undetermined. Perhaps it's time we compared each flavor's color. If there's one thing people seem to remember about Ecto Cooler, it's the unmistakable neon green hue...

Hmmmm -- virtually no difference at all. In fact, I can't honestly say if Ecto Cooler itself was green. The ads certainly suggested that, but edibles are often "dolled up" for those campaigns. Plus, I've seen firsthand that even the truly "colored" Hi-C flavors lose their sheen after a given amount of time. To avoid staining rugs and clothes, Minute Maid never added the type of food dyes you've grown accustomed to with something like, say, M&Ms. The tint is almost always natural these days, and though I can't prove it, it's possible that Ecto Cooler was only "green" in our Father Time-sweetened memories. Or was it?! Again?!

The Star Trek Connection?

While I'll solemnly admit to spending a little too much time searching for information regarding the Juice in Question, my findings were few and far between. I've been doing this site for a long time, and I don't think many readers would deny that I've probably spent more time researching "that" generation's fads than most people. During my travels, I've learned that there's a tribute for just about anything. Even the truly obscure stuff usually has some free-hosted, five-year-old tribute if you look hard enough. Yet, there's very, very little about Ecto Cooler. Plus, the people who have written about it contradict each other with misshapen and sometimes incorrect recollections. For a fruit juice, there's a lot of intrigue attached to good ol' Ecto. I did find one trivia nugget, though:

In "Relics," an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, there's a futuristic cocktail known as "Aldebaran Whiskey." If the rumors are true, they used Ecto Cooler as a prop to illustrate the whiskey's green hue.

A ha! So it was green after all! You know what this means, right? Even if Shoutin' Tangergreen or Orange Lavaburst perfectly mimic Slimer's sludge in taste, neither are true clones. As you can see in the above pic, they're both pale piss yellow.

But which of the two comes the closest? Personally, I'm still siding with Lavaburst. It's got this odd aftertaste that I just can't overlook -- if I remember my Ecto Cooler correctly, it had the exact same punch. Tangergreen seems like the natural predecessor, but in reality, the difference between the two current flavors is almost too negligible to weigh. Few would find success in naming each for a blind taste test, so in terms of championing a "new" Ecto Cooler, it's really up to the specific person.

Mystery solved? Not quite, and maybe that's for the best. If there's one thing Ecto Cooler had going for it, it's that the beverage was truly one of a kind. Us fans might love the idea of being able to still drink it whenever we want, but the real stuff took a powder right along Slimer and his ghostbusting pals. Besides, just when you think you have the answers, further research brings more questions -- check out this Usenet post from early 2000; a response to an Ecto inquiry...

Subject: Re: Hi-C Ecto Cooler?
Newsgroup: alt.movies.ghostbusters
Date: 2000/05/14

"It is still made and still called Ecto-Cooler. The only difference is they have taken Slimer and replaced him with an orange surrounded by rings of some sort. I'm drinking one right now."

The plot thickens....

REPLIES: 197 comments

I'm no so sure about this idea of Ectocooler actually being green. Now I admit that my memories of the stuff are a little hazy, but I seem to recall being disappointed as a child that the juice wasn't actually green and in fact was just juice colored. Of course, there is also the possiblity that it was green originally, but was later changed to just its natural color.

Chestnuts roasted by Rob @ 08/04/2003 11:50 AM EST

I don't know what to say... let's call hi-C

Chestnuts roasted by chad @ 08/04/2003 11:51 AM EST

For the last 4 years, I have worked in a Supermarket part-time. When I first started working there (Fall 1999), Ecto-Cooler was STILL on the shelf. All connections to Ghostbusters and Slimer had been removed, replaced by an orange and a cow smiling. Now however, even that is off the shelf.

Chestnuts roasted by Chuck Smith @ 08/04/2003 11:55 AM EST

I remember when I was a kid passing the cooler aisles where the gallons of juice were kept, and more than once noting that the Ecto Cooler was bright neon green. Maybe they changed the color later on, but in the clear gallon jugs, there was no mistaking that color.

Chestnuts roasted by Evil Killer Poptarts @ 08/04/2003 12:13 PM EST

No, the shit WAS green....that was what was so aluring...that green necter flowing through the crappy little straw...

Chestnuts roasted by Bifflog @ 08/04/2003 12:15 PM EST

Hmm... I remember drinking the stuff when I was little, but that's all. I haven't had a Hi-C in years, so I'll have to talk your words on it about the taste.

Chestnuts roasted by Mr. Mr. Mr. @ 08/04/2003 12:15 PM EST

Matt, this is going to sound completely stupid, but its true. There are two kinds of Hi-C, those that are made for the large jugs, and those made for juice boxes. The jugs have food colouring, the boxes do not. So all this talk of natural colors is just the batch they use for boxes, not jugs. To see if tangergreen is really green, you'll have to find a jug, it bet a lot of cash that it is.

Chestnuts roasted by Devin Butler @ 08/04/2003 12:19 PM EST

You would think that if so many people remember this one particular brand of JUICE BOXES...that there is still a market for Ecto-Cooler...

Chestnuts roasted by Bifflog @ 08/04/2003 12:20 PM EST

And so the saga continues -- I'll fetch a jug of Tangergreen next time we go shopping.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 12:20 PM EST

I totally remember ecto cooler as being green in the box.

you know whats a shame, i remember plenty of kinds who had the perennial fruit punch mustache, but not a single one who ever had an ecto-cooler 'stache. i guess ecto was more of a juice box thing.

Chestnuts roasted by julia badtouch @ 08/04/2003 12:42 PM EST

no no no! it was green I tells ya through the straw in the jugs it was green, I can even remember as a kid (I'm 19 now)having an argument with my older sister insisting the shit was green, so we did a lil test and low and behold it was green I'll never forget it.

Chestnuts roasted by thefatkid @ 08/04/2003 12:51 PM EST

Yeah, Dev's right. After you're first article, with the pic of the unboxed Orange Lavaburster, I went to the store and noticed a jug of it, only it was unmistakably orange in color.

By the way, you are a God. Google imploded when I tried to search for the elusive Ecto.

Chestnuts roasted by The Ponderer @ 08/04/2003 12:54 PM EST

I tend to find that if you ask the right people the right questions, you will get the answers you are looking for.

Ok. So Coca-Cola owns Hi-C. I would suggest calling coca-cola's product information line and ask around to find out how you can get INFO on the various HI-C products. Now I'm sure they aren't going to want to talk about some product that's over 10 years old. But I'm sure you can request some kind of information regarding Ecto-cooler.

The info is out there. You just have to want it bad. How bad do you want it Matt? Hell I'll do some research if you want.

Chestnuts roasted by sknyluv @ 08/04/2003 01:07 PM EST

Matt, man, I know this has nothing to do with Ecto Cooler (yeah, um, I hate juice... sorry, all), but I gotta ask- you planning on getting this new Unicron Transformer? I know you hate the Armada stuff, but I seem to remember some article where you mentioned really wanting a Unicron figure, and this new one looks pretty damn similar to the version from the movie. Just curious.

Chestnuts roasted by The Lucky One @ 08/04/2003 01:32 PM EST

Scotty and Picard drink Ecto cooler ??? Now my plans to construct a spacecraft and slingshot it around the sun so I can travel in time now has more meaning. Now my incentive is so I can get some ecto cooler. Then I can pretend I am drinking Aldebaren whisky! . . . God I need a life.

Chestnuts roasted by Gozer @ 08/04/2003 01:40 PM EST

It would seem that the only real way to solve the mystery would be to compare the ingredients the these two flavors with Ecto-Cooler's ingredients.

Chestnuts roasted by Aaron Ackerson @ 08/04/2003 01:41 PM EST

I know the red juices are red in the boxes too because I remember squirting a girl with the red type and getting her white dress all red....

but maybe now they do it clear, and colored depending on jug/box packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by chad @ 08/04/2003 01:51 PM EST

So . . . is Slimer Catholic? I have to write a paper on a Catholic I admire for Sunday School, and if Slimer isn't a Catholic, I'll have to go with my first choice: The Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase.

Chestnuts roasted by Woolhouse @ 08/04/2003 02:00 PM EST

Yeah, I do seem to remember a time right before Ecto went away completely when they still called it Ecto, but no Slimer.

Chestnuts roasted by Static_A_Matic @ 08/04/2003 02:06 PM EST

Yes, the Hi-C's used to be coloured in the box. Not any more. Almost no juice box is coloured anymore. Capri Sun isn't, the only ones that are are the ones where you can see the drink through the packaging. As for all the "No it was orange I remember seeing come through the straw" comments, even before hi-c quit adding color to the boxes (to save money) the straws wave been opaque orange.
God - I know way too much about juice boxes.

Chestnuts roasted by Devin Butler @ 08/04/2003 02:09 PM EST

Watch out -- even calling the company, as some have suggested, might not yield correct information, as many PR reps are ill-informed about the details of company products, particularly older merchandise. Such a call could put an end to the debate, of course, but I'm just issuing an advance warning to not instantly accept it as the ultimate truth.

And I've not yet sampled the Tangergreen, but I will say this: Lavaburst is not Ectocooler. I'd bet my life on it. The taste just isn't quite the same...

Chestnuts roasted by J64 @ 08/04/2003 02:27 PM EST

Ecto cooler was definitely green.
I remember making green cocktails w/ it.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 02:28 PM EST

First of all HOLY SHIT ITS A PIC OF MATT other then that it defantly was green, i rember in like the 4th grade when my mom would pack me my lunch she would buy the 4 pack of eco cooler in the boxes. so everyday i would hope for one, then when id get it id drink it all real fast and get that tangy high you always get from those juices.>_< (i miss it so)

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 02:30 PM EST

I have a bunch of Hi-C boxes left over from that old Nintendo promotion. I think Mario was the mascot of the Orange Lababurst stuff.

Is there a Mario/Slimer connection? A conspiracy theory for the ages...

Chestnuts roasted by Freezair @ 08/04/2003 02:33 PM EST

HIS NAME IS JARED, AND HE LOST IT AT SUBWAY... Jesus, dude, there's pics of Matt all over the site.

Chestnuts roasted by Elmo Machete @ 08/04/2003 02:33 PM EST

I looked on google also. Everyone seems to remember it was being green. There's a bartending site, and all the drinks refering to 'ecto cooler' are made to turn out green... however they are using lemon/lime mix...

I also found a forum with several ecto cooler threads. Some morons actually think the fruit punch is the next ecto cooler... other's are debating over the orange vs. tangerine-green flavors just like here.

Chestnuts roasted by Lynn @ 08/04/2003 02:36 PM EST

If anyone wants to inundate Minute Maid, the makers of HI-C, w/ phone calls, their number is
1-888-884-8952.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 02:47 PM EST

Does anyone have any pics of any old ecto cooler juice boxes? If we could only find out the exact ingredients, we could tell which juice is THE juice.

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/04/2003 02:52 PM EST

I contacted Hi-C through email, you all can too! http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_contact/index.html
Choose Hi-C under brand.

Chestnuts roasted by Clay @ 08/04/2003 02:57 PM EST

Matt- Does that store you bought the Bubble Gum Hi-C have any Ecto Cooler?

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 03:01 PM EST

Matt knows there are two different kinds of juices. The jugs and the boxes. They even have slightly different tastes.(same thing with Pepsi Blue, he and I both agree)
When I was a youngster(I just turned 16), I remember getting the stuff for elementary school lunches. When I drank it out of the juicebox, it was...hmm...
Well, I remember contrasting colors. Either the straws were orange and the stuff was green or the straws were green and the stuff was light-yellow. I can't provide much insight, but I definitely remember the boxes and even seeing it in its most recent packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by Omni @ 08/04/2003 03:10 PM EST

Just wanted to point out that Hi-C often leaves the coloring out in their juice boxes, in order to cut costs (hence why both drinks are pale yellow). If you want to compare colors, you'll have to get a larger package (a bottle or... do they still package it in those giant cans? I love those).

I've had Ecto Cooler from the can, and it was very, very green. My brother and I would make little "cocktails" out of Ecto Cooler and Coke. If you pour the coke just right, it doesn't mix together; instead, the Coke just sits on top of the Hi-C, giving it a very interesting look. Of course, it mixes together anyway the first time you tip it over to take a drink, but it's interesting until then.

But I digress. The point is, if you want to compare colors, you're going to have to use something other than the juice boxes.

And, old Usenet posts notwithstanding, I understand that Ecto Cooler was actually discontinued sometime in 2002.

Chestnuts roasted by HeartBurn Kid @ 08/04/2003 03:19 PM EST

Yep, You've gone crazy. :D

Chestnuts roasted by Syxx Pac @ 08/04/2003 03:26 PM EST

Is it just my computer,or are there white bars whos sole purpose is to cover half the picture?

Chestnuts roasted by Fhydra @ 08/04/2003 03:29 PM EST

Now that you mention them....there's white bars on all my pics too. It's like the government is blocking out the important ecto-info. Those bastards.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 03:37 PM EST

Let Me Holla At Cha Playa.
You know Matt, You've done many Articles on Ecto-Cooler. Color? Green. Beelee dat. You even done an article on Crystal Pepsi. Color? Clear, or so day would have you believe. Real color? White. Now I know you don't be haterizing on Coke And Pepsi? You want Gimmicks? Nah dats not it. Beelee Dat playa. The reason there have been no articles on Coke And Pepsi? Color? Black. Beelee dat playa. I don't see you Thuggin And Buggin On a big ole Bottle Of Vanilla Coke. I thought ya'lls would give an ounce of Respect cause it's Black, wit a hint of Whitey. But not even da Vanilla Coke gets da respect of a whole article. Ya feel me? I'm gonna have to go back and tell all my Brothas to back off ya site man. Hateration without Reprezentation. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/04/2003 03:39 PM EST

Oh And as for da White Bars covering the pics, ya Conspiracy theory isn't a theory. Beelee dat playa. White Bars. Just another way dat Whitey be holdin us back. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/04/2003 03:43 PM EST

on the boxes in the pics it clearly states the reason for making the boxed kinds non-colored ^ "now, won't stain". so you won't spend your school day looking trash because you poked the straw too hard into the box.

Chestnuts roasted by nick @ 08/04/2003 04:00 PM EST

I want to have Theodore Long's love child... but to tell you the truth, I'd much rather be Down With the Brown than I would Back the Mack.

Chestnuts roasted by Elmo Machete @ 08/04/2003 04:10 PM EST

ATTENTION: the only difference between the two is NOT just a vial of tangerine juice- there is one other discrepency between the ingredients you failed to realize...

NATURAL FLAVORS !!!!

it's not the concentrated juice that changes it- it's the NATURAL FLAVORS-

this is the most broad ingredient known to man! there's hundreds of different NATURAL FLAVORS- and i'm sure they are QUIT DIFFERENT between the two-

YOU SeEK OUT THE LISTING OF WHAT SPECIFIC NATURAL FLAVORS THEY ARE... AND YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWER!

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 04:12 PM EST

elmo you are a serious dick

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 04:19 PM EST

Yep, I have no doubt in my mind that Ecto Cooler was green (I wonder if Theodore R. Long has anything to say about green people). I remember it being green. Plus it only makes sense that it was green. How else could you associate the product with Slimer other than by putting him on the box? (But then again, how else is Donald Duck associated with his own brand of orange juice other than by putting HIM on the can?) By making it taste like Slimer? I'm not sure what Slimer tastes like, but I'd hate to read the ingredients on something like Slimer-flavored Hi-C, and so tasting it would've been out of the question. But of course, I WAS a little kid then. And knowing how I was back then...

As you can clearly see, I still haven't gotten over Ecto Cooler's disappearance. Believe me, you would hate to see my therapy bill.

Chestnuts roasted by Nate @ 08/04/2003 04:21 PM EST

I can't tell you if the stuff is still around today, but I'm old enough to remember what it was called before it was Ecto cooler. It used to be called just plain "Citrus cooler," but it was the exact same taste and same luminous green color. The stuff looked like antifreeze but damn was it tasty.

Chestnuts roasted by wampa 1 @ 08/04/2003 04:25 PM EST

me and my older brother argued about this, he remembers ecto cooler having a horrible color at school lunchs and I remember the vibrant green. we theorize that in the beginning it was the horrible piss color, but maybe to attract more buyers they started adding the green food coloring to the juice boxes too, thats just our theory. it seems as i it could be true due to the gap between him taking to to school to when I was old enough to pack some slimer.

Chestnuts roasted by jon voight penis @ 08/04/2003 04:25 PM EST

Okay, I remember very well ecto-cooler being green. An akward bright green color that makes you instantly think of slimer..at least it did for me. I remembered I dreaded drinking the green swill out of paper cups at birthday parties back in the day. I'm also Pretty sure it came in a juice bottle like the current juicy juice bottles.

Chestnuts roasted by Larko @ 08/04/2003 04:31 PM EST

HUZZAH!!!

Oh, and I think the white bars are there to block out a bit of the Hi-C boxes just enough so there is no copyright infringement laws being broken... Then again I could just be an enourmous tool with no real insight...Maybe Wise Man Matt will give us the answer.

Chestnuts roasted by The Ponderer @ 08/04/2003 04:32 PM EST

After I read the original article, I went out and bought some Lavaburst, and I have to say that it IS Ecto Cooler.

As for the color, Ecto Cooler was most definately green. No doubt about it.

Man, now you got me craving Hi-C again. I'm gonna have to go to the store and get some more! Darn you, Matt!

Chestnuts roasted by 005 @ 08/04/2003 04:35 PM EST

Ecto-cooler was green, but that can be accomplished with a little green food coloring. I bet Bitner can answer it all. He knows everything.

Chestnuts roasted by Bansheex @ 08/04/2003 04:43 PM EST

It was green, and for the person who was confused, the box straws were orange. Poured out the stuff looked cool, but going up through the orange straw it looked a little odd.

I only ever had the boxes, but we bought them by the cardboard caseload, and me and my brothers loved the stuff - I gotta try these wannabes and see which is closer to what i remember.

Oh, and Clear Tab rocked.

Chestnuts roasted by Sol @ 08/04/2003 05:06 PM EST

As a general point of reference for those who haven't tasted the new flavors: Lavaburst actually tastes more like what you'd expect Tangergreen to taste like, and vice versa.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 05:07 PM EST

I had some Hi-C in April and it was blue when I drank it AND blue when I spat it all over myself due to an abnormally humorous Peanuts strip...

Chestnuts roasted by Homsar @ 08/04/2003 05:27 PM EST

Perhaps the answer to the age-old question about yellow or green ecto-cooler can be solved by a little deduction. At some point, Hi-C stopped adding colors to the juice boxes. Is it not possible that they stopped adding colors during the reign of Ecto Cooler, so those who sampled it early on remember it as green, but those who drank it near the end of its time remember it as kind of piss-yellow?

All I know is that I have a vague half-memory of being disappointed that Ecto Cooler WASN'T green. It's possible that my mind might be making stuff up, as I don't remember it specifically, but... I consider it equally possible that the non-staining (colorless) versions came out between when you people were drinking ecto and when I was. As I am, I believe, slightly younger than the average reader here (20, instead of early to mid 20's by my estimate, in order to actually remember some of the earlier stuff on the site) this is entirely possible.

Thoughts?

Chestnuts roasted by Silkenray @ 08/04/2003 05:34 PM EST

I have a theory to throw out, what if Ecto Cooler was really SOYLENT GREEN people. Then that means we've been drinking people all along. Perhaps that's what gave it the distinctive color. If anyone's seen the movie, they'd understand.

Something to ponder! :-)

Chestnuts roasted by Unknown Soljah @ 08/04/2003 05:50 PM EST

Wasn't the Ecto Cooler color something similar to dnL? That stuff is mighty green.

Let me know your thoughts!

Chestnuts roasted by You, not me! @ 08/04/2003 05:55 PM EST

MY GOD IT'S JUST HI-C!....yeah it was green...scary ghost green....duuuuuuude.

Chestnuts roasted by The Dude @ 08/04/2003 06:14 PM EST

Haha This guy made some art with Ecto-Cooler.
http://www.ryankerrigan.com/portfolio/early.html
i found it on some search website.

Chestnuts roasted by Molly @ 08/04/2003 06:25 PM EST

Lucky One, here is that Unicron figure:
http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=fignews2.setup&category=actionfigures&topic=77&show_article=340

Chestnuts roasted by ME @ 08/04/2003 06:25 PM EST

well.. I went to the minute maid website, and they have a HI-C link - with all of their drink products - no Ecto Cooler still being produced

http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_products/hic.html

Chestnuts roasted by Justin @ 08/04/2003 06:35 PM EST

Somewhere someone must have the ingredients... The best I could come up with were the active ingredients in ectoparisitic control sheep dip:

High-Cis Cypermethrin
(non-OP)
Amitraz (non-OP)
Flumethrin (non-OP)
Diazinon

Hopefully that will bring the solution closer to fruition.

Chestnuts roasted by zaius @ 08/04/2003 06:43 PM EST

If there's one thing I've learned from x-entertainment, it's that whenever a commenter says, "My God it's JUST (fill in the blank with Hi-C, Photog, Marshmallow Peeps, etc.)!" And tries to make the others feel silly for getting excited, well, he just doesn't get it. He just won't get in the pool. So very sad.

Chestnuts roasted by Horatio @ 08/04/2003 06:45 PM EST

If Unicron is a planet why does he need legs?

Chestnuts roasted by Inverarity @ 08/04/2003 06:48 PM EST

A few weeks ago, my local Shop-Rite's circular came in the mail, emblazoned with an ad on the front for a sale on Hi-C. And what variety is pictured? ETCO-COOLER! I literally fell out of my chair. However, when I got to Shop-Rite, there was none to be found and the employees I ran into claimed ignorance. I bought some Orange Lavaburst anyway, so I guess their ruse worked on this sucker.

Chestnuts roasted by Jack @ 08/04/2003 06:50 PM EST

Ecto-Cooler MUST have been green in the boxes. I was a Capri Sun kinda guy...that was all I drank. I didn't care at all for Hi-C. So it MUST have been green if I switched over to it for a period of time...it was the only time I did not drink Capri Sun.

If I didn't care for the taste of Hi-C, there must have been a gimmick to rock my Capri Sun relationship.

Chestnuts roasted by Nachokhaki @ 08/04/2003 06:53 PM EST

....And I know that gimmick WASN'T Slimer alone...

Chestnuts roasted by Nachokhaki @ 08/04/2003 06:54 PM EST

For those who think of it, don't spend your time browsing minutemaid.com on archive.org. There ain't no good nutritional info like there is today.

Chestnuts roasted by zaius @ 08/04/2003 06:59 PM EST

Here's the thing about Ecto Cooler: There were at least four versions of it.

The first version, the most flamboyant and memorable of them, was the kind that came in the jug. Since the jug was clear, Hi-C had to color the stuff green, or else they'd be stinking liars. That's where most memories of the stuff comes from.

The second version, the exact same green stuff, was the first run of Ecto Cooler juice boxes. Those juice boxes came with an orange straw, for reasons unbeknownst to even the most learned scholars. But the juice in the boxes was definitely green.

The third version is the one that causes the most confusion; it wasn't colored. It came with a green straw, though, so we little ones could pretend. It was the same color as the stuff in the juice boxes now, and one can only assume that it was the first colored Hi-C to be affected by the uncolored box juice policy. If you'll notice, even to this day Orange Lavaburst is colored orange in the jugs, but not in the juice boxes.

The fourth and final run of Ecto Cooler is the most mysterious and rare of them all: it didn't have a picture of Slimer on the front. The only one I ever witnessed was in jug form, and there was only a tiny Slimer on the back. That day in the early 90s was the last time I ever saw Ecto Cooler in stores; beaten, battered, and stripped of its dignity.

It broke my heart.

Chestnuts roasted by Frieccolo @ 08/04/2003 07:15 PM EST

I would honestly buy Ecto Cooler, like, in BULK. I emailed Minutemaid, asking them to start producing it again.

Matt, I suggest you either go on a quest to find some out of date market that still has it in stock....

OR!

You could do an article detailing how to make your own.

Chestnuts roasted by Rambozo @ 08/04/2003 07:28 PM EST

i'll back people up on this one. ecto cooler was most definately green. i'm pretty sure it was in the juice boxes and the jugs. and yes, it was on the the shelves for a long, long ass time.

Chestnuts roasted by kimmy @ 08/04/2003 07:31 PM EST

The white bars are for ~*style*~

Chestnuts roasted by Sammy @ 08/04/2003 07:35 PM EST

I would honestly buy Ecto Cooler, like, in BULK. I emailed Minutemaid, asking them to start producing it again.

Matt, I suggest you either go on a quest to find some out of date market that still has it in stock....

OR!

You could do an article detailing how to make your own.

Chestnuts roasted by Rambozo @ 08/04/2003 07:42 PM EST

hi longtime drinker first time poster, i am 100% sure ecto cooler is a bright allmost neon green color similar to a green hilighter. i can allso rember a time when large cans similar to soup cans were employed to transport larger volumes of this godsent drink, but for some reason, they switched to plastic jugs.

Chestnuts roasted by Razin @ 08/04/2003 07:46 PM EST

While doing a google search I stumbled upon an alcoholic "ecto cooler" drink mix - http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/2156

Chestnuts roasted by Big Al @ 08/04/2003 07:56 PM EST

I used to work in a food pantry.
We provided assistance for low income families by supplying them with food stuffs.
Last year we recieved as a donation a crate of Ecto-cooler. (W/O Slimer) in our 80's induced pop culture greed we consumed this gift from heaven on the spot. So it is still being produced somewhere. Unfortunately we didn't bother finding out if it was green or not.

Chestnuts roasted by Dante @ 08/04/2003 08:31 PM EST

Um, Ecto Cooler was alright...but I think it's gone, guys. THese NEW names and flavors are just that: NEW. They have abandoned the Ecto Cooler even if their newer products resemble it a little...and, by the way, The Million Dollar Man is NOT Catholic, he is Amish. You are thinking of "Tugboat;" he was catholic. Hogan may have been as he wore a cruzafix on a necklace. That would make Andre a heretic for ripping it off of him circa 1985.

Chestnuts roasted by CammiOh @ 08/04/2003 08:31 PM EST

I guess I'll add my voice to th ones who do specifically remember Ecto Cooler being green. I had a friend who went on this weird kick where we was going to color coordinate all his meals, like on one days he'd only eat orange foods (orange, cheese, Cheetos), etc. Ecto Cooler was his beverage of choice on his green days. (Yes, I and all my friends did a lot of drugs back then).

But the natural colored Ecto Cooler theories sound plausible too, as I have noticed juice box drinks that seemed were pale yellow or almost clear.

Several mentions online have described Ecto Cooler as "tangerine flavored." Personally, I think the difference between orange-flavored and tangerine-flavored is pretty negligible.

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/04/2003 08:37 PM EST

When in doubt...go to eBay....

Someone is selling a bunch of old labels....including one for Ecto Coolers predecessor Citris Cooler in the can. Now someone with 9.00 burning a hole in their pocket can buy the lot, check the ingredients and compare them to the two challangers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620524879&category=1526

Chestnuts roasted by Garrison @ 08/04/2003 08:38 PM EST

Wow...and we thought Matt was a genius for selling a jar of dirt on eBay. This guy is actually selling his garbage.

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/04/2003 08:42 PM EST

I don't remember Ecto respectfully (damn mother never let me have juice boxes!!!), but let me say, Matt is a damn fine hottie!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Dinkadoo(Yes, I AM a girl...) @ 08/04/2003 08:57 PM EST

Nothing whatsoever to do with Ecto Cooler, but last week I mentioned the weird synchronicity of certain articles on X-E (Matt did the Hulksicle vs. Spongebobsicle article, and then about a couple weeks later they appeared together in the flea market article).

Now it's happened again...after his Animal Farm article caused a flurry of excitement over rock pencils, Matt republishes his Within the Woods article...WHICH CONTAINS A MENTION OF ROCK PENCILS!

Is Matt doing this on purpose? Does his slacky exterior hide a brilliant, deconstructionist mind? Is a higher power guiding the direction of this website? Am I just going nuts waiting for the clock to tick off these last three minutes so I can leave work and go home and eat chili?

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/04/2003 08:58 PM EST

Damn, Dinkadoo bet me to it. Matt, you are a sexy, sexy, sexy beast. This is why you should be on VH1. Then people can admire you and Mo Rocca, side by side in sexyness. Though I do miss your red-tipped hair and sunglasses. It was all hot and mysterious.

Also, I tasted Orange Lavaburst, and... forgive me... thought it tasted awful.

Chestnuts roasted by Melanie @ 08/04/2003 09:32 PM EST

PROOF

http://home.earthlink.net/~tonycaputo/now/hi-c.html

Ecto Cooler pictures Slimer, Oranges, AAAAAAND Tangerines. Tangergreen is the new Ecto Cooler. Make what you want of the comic. It looks like it starts out orange and then Slimer shits in it, turning it green?

Chestnuts roasted by David @ 08/04/2003 10:13 PM EST

I concur. I have had many pleasant daydreams about tearing Matt's clothing off ever since I first discovered this site in April.

Matt keeps me warm on the long, cold nights.

Chestnuts roasted by freakachu (also a girl) @ 08/04/2003 10:17 PM EST

Did someone say TAB! heh i found some tab for real cheep at this kosher place a year ago... was ecto cooler kosher they might have some.

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 10:24 PM EST

Like anyone cares whether or not we're girls...?

I don't think the gazillions of guys (and probably same amount of girls) care about ripping off poor Matt's clothes. He's got a three headed gypsy girlfriend to do that. We're here about the fucking ECTOCOOLER!!!

Which, I concur, I also miss.

Chestnuts roasted by Otaku Queen @ 08/04/2003 10:26 PM EST

I wish my name were Ecto-Cooler.

I vaguely remember the drink, but I do think it resurfaced later, in one way or another.

Chestnuts roasted by BaronKrusha @ 08/04/2003 10:48 PM EST

I'm probably one of the few who sincerely didn't like Ecto-Cooler. I was, am, and always will be a pop kinda guy.

Chestnuts roasted by dude42 @ 08/04/2003 10:49 PM EST

""I can't tell you if the stuff is still around today, but I'm old enough to remember what it was called before it was Ecto cooler. It used to be called just plain "Citrus cooler," but it was the exact same taste and same luminous green color. The stuff looked like antifreeze but damn was it tasty.""

I was just about to bring this up. Citrus Cooler came along in the "who put the straw campaign" (remember when they put in the bendy straws and had that stupid video with the kid in the leather jacket singing the rama-lama-ding-dong song but to HI - C... Who was that man, I'd like to shake his hand, he made my HI -C cooler then before yeaaaaaaaaaaah) Sorry, way too much pot in highschool, only thing I can remember is bad stuff from the 80's..... ANYWAY Citrus cooler was green, in the box and out of the box. Ector cooler started green in the box, with an orange straw (and the taste was more tangerello (mini hybrids of Oranges and Tangerings) I think that's thier name, or similar) Later down the line, they got rid of the color and switched to a green straw to keep the illusion, but they still used the green in the larger ammounts. Hell, I can still remember buying HI - C in the cans ^^ Definately green to start, and I tried both new versions, and if you want the original, mix them together (2 to 1 screaming orange) and add some green food coloring (vodka optional)

Chestnuts roasted by Toxikfoxx @ 08/04/2003 10:55 PM EST

Jared... nobody said Tab.

Matt? Hottie? Really now? I guess I'm just not gay.

BTW, Matt, I've nominated you for SGC2C. Figured I mentioned every other name I could think of, so, if Williams Street is givin' you the call, it's my fault. I really think that would be a respectable TV debut. But what we really need is X-E, 9/8 central.

Today, the newspapers, tommorrow...

THE WORLD!!!

Chestnuts roasted by "MR. GAME & WATCH" @ 08/04/2003 10:57 PM EST

hmm I remember going to my cousins house drinking ecto cooler and watching ren and stimpy I was a messy eater and I usually ended up with green stains on my clothes from the stuff

Chestnuts roasted by iLikePandas @ 08/04/2003 10:57 PM EST

The MinuteMade website has info on hi-c so check it out. http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_products/hic-7b.html

Chestnuts roasted by Dantheman @ 08/04/2003 11:20 PM EST

I completely forgot about the canned Ecto Cooler. I'll never forgive myself!

I'm really curious, now. I'm going to have to scour the groceries until I can quench my thirst. FOR TRUTH.

Chestnuts roasted by Frieccolo @ 08/05/2003 12:08 AM EST

So let's get this straight. Big jugs were green. Little cartons eventually lost this fabled hue.

Sorry, I hate repetition, but then I never had Ecto drinkies because I am in confounded England ^"^

The most amusing thing I ever did find was in San Francisco. Crackers called "Cheesy Nips" (I have piercings that get like that). Such a sophisticated sense of humour...

Chestnuts roasted by Devetaki @ 08/05/2003 12:09 AM EST

Let Me Holla At Cha Playa.
Now hear dis. Since we're all in dis together and we got so much Unity, we need to form a campaign. You see I have been cheated. Hoodwinked and Bamboozled. Beelee day playa. You see, yesterday I found my fine self (don't haterize) in White-Aid. Or as ya'lls call it Rite-Aid. And I bought myself a box of Incredible Hilk Ice Pop. Beelee dat playa. You see Nate, I believe the Green People's character has been assassinated too. Beelee dat playa. And Let me tell you something playa. I done been cheated out of my FREE!!! Hulk Collectible card not once, but dis most definatly be da second time. Beelee dat play. So what we need to do is call ya govna, call ya maya, dammit call da presdent and tell him about this needless persecution of the Black Man by Wh...er Rite-Aid and gimmie my damn Hulk Card. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/05/2003 12:31 AM EST

I don't know why you're all fretting about Ecto Cooler...it was great(and very green) in it's day, but now Vanilla Coke, nectar of the Gods, rules this planet.

Chestnuts roasted by Booyah Josh @ 08/05/2003 12:44 AM EST

Yup, that Matt is a heart-throb.

Oh, and uhm... Ecto Cooler... was green. *relevant comment*

Chestnuts roasted by Melanie @ 08/05/2003 12:45 AM EST

Glad to see that my theory and experience have been proven by those in the know. Whew. Guess I'm not hallucinating.

Chestnuts roasted by Silkenray @ 08/05/2003 12:58 AM EST

Ecto cooler is made out of PEOPLE!!! IT'S PEOPLE!!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Evil Matt @ 08/05/2003 02:17 AM EST

why don't you compare the ingredients of lavaburst and tangergreen to those of ecto cooler? unless of course that's too easy...

also, all hi-c is piss yellow now; note the "won't stain!" packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by blahhhhhhh @ 08/05/2003 02:45 AM EST

No tab oh poop :(

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/05/2003 02:51 AM EST

Please, fruit Juices like Hi-C is highly undrinkable. Cola's much better.

Chestnuts roasted by BoogiePop Phantom @ 08/05/2003 03:41 AM EST

IT WAS GREEN FOR SURE!!! I used to put them in the freezer overnight then cut them open and have SLIMER GREEN ICE BRICKS for a snack in summer. They were the best! Once Ecto-Cooler was gone I stopped drinking hi-c and started drinking caprisun and eventually sodas, many many sodas. Damn you hi-c it's all your fault im a fat lazy bum!!!

Chestnuts roasted by heeloyd @ 08/05/2003 05:06 AM EST

Though I don't really have anything to add to the debate since I live in a backward country and don't even recall ever seeing Ecto Cooler, much less tasting it (a pity, seeing how I was dangerously obsessed with TRG), I would like to point out that I think the union between Ghostbusters and Trek is a heretical affront before our universal god, Steve Guttenberg.

Chestnuts roasted by JC @ 08/05/2003 06:50 AM EST

whos' steve guttenburg?

in uk we only had unmubgo, it wasnt as interesting as ectoooler seems to be, but it used to give me the hypers.

vimto still does the same to me. all those coloured drink make me all giggly and enegetic. it freaks people out.

but i have made green "ecto " cocktails by using the recipes in cocktail books.

they just made me drunk

Chestnuts roasted by 'tin man @ 08/05/2003 07:27 AM EST

I remember Ecto-Cooler being around for a while (new style packaging, etc.)....even without Slimer...TOO BAD THEY DISCONTINUED THE DRINK!

Oh well, the Tangerine flavored one seems more promising.

For some reason I can't find Orange Lavaburst in any of the friggin' grocery stores around here!!!!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Xavier 7 @ 08/05/2003 08:04 AM EST

Wellp, after a long hard day of skating, I decided that it was a good idea to go to McDonalds and get some food. As my friends and I stood in line, I was ungodly thirsty. The line was so damn long so I decided to go see what drinks they had. I had just read the orignal article about Orange Lavaburst earlier in the day...and low and behold, Orange Lavaburst was at McDonalds. I told my friend to get it, which he did, and his first impression was "This is like, Hi-C but superpowered. It's too damn flavored". My rebutal of course was, "That's because it is Ecto Cooler". After a long drink test between me and all my friends, we decided that Orange Lavaburst is most definitly Ecto Cooler. I remember the aftertaste I would get with Ecto, and it was so very present in the Lavaburst.

Now, I'm not saying that the Shoutin' Tangerine isn't Ecto Cooler too, I'm just saying that the Lavaburst is most definitly Ecto Cooler.

Chestnuts roasted by Diabetic Dinosaur @ 08/05/2003 08:47 AM EST

Check out this link for all the proof you need regarding the scandalous "Ecto Cooler".

http://tychl.txf.com/Ecto-Cooler-web.jpg

Chestnuts roasted by Arkous @ 08/05/2003 09:04 AM EST

Arkous, I think you nailed it.

Wouldnt that mean that the shoutin' orange tangergreen has the same UPC code as Ecto cooler, making it the re-named product?

Chestnuts roasted by PropWash @ 08/05/2003 09:51 AM EST

Would it take all the fun out of it just to contact Hi-C's corp comm department and see what they have to say?

They'll probably even send you free stuff...at least a T-shirt.

Chestnuts roasted by Ubu Rex @ 08/05/2003 09:54 AM EST

Yup Arkous I think that's all the proof we need. If the UPC is the same, it is most definately the same product.

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/05/2003 10:05 AM EST

I've never had Ecto-Cooler or Hi-C so I'll just drop a few thoughts and slink out like the non-Hi-C-drinking freak I am:

Is it just me, or does Matt look like a sexier Mulder in that picture? Well, regardless, if a man with passions is sexy, then Matt is one sexy bitch.

Once again, I'm inexplicably fascinated with something that I wouldn't put into my body, but Matt is willing to examine in minute, entertaining detail.

Wonder if Matt can shed light on the notion that the Molten household labours under that Sunny D puts fat (in oil form) in its "OJ." Wouldn't touch that shit again with a ten-foot...well, you know.

Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of a box Hi-C Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen? The Shadow knows.

Chestnuts roasted by Molten @ 08/05/2003 10:14 AM EST

I'm more concerned about Arkous' diet. Maui Hot Teriyaki, Bugles, Funyons, Fruit by the Foot, Gushers, and Hi-C? Good God! Someone's going to be bouncing off the walls. How about an apple or something?

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/05/2003 11:12 AM EST

Sunny 'D' is being phased out of production, same goes for Jif (one f or 2?) Peanut butter.

Chestnuts roasted by Zappadog @ 08/05/2003 11:14 AM EST

Molten, regarding your Sunny Delight theory, I do know that somewhere along the line the formula for the stuff went through a drastic change. At one point it was much sweeter and...well, thicker it seemed. Later it became waterier and seemed to taste more like regular orange juice. I don't know if they just stopped adding as much sugar or what, but something definitely happened to the stuff.

Either way, you're right, Sunny D is pretty rancid.

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/05/2003 11:26 AM EST

Completely not related, but after reading the posts up there...why is it always "First we'll take over (city, building, objective), then...THE WORLD!"
I mean really...is it that easy? For once I'd like to hear a bad guy be like "First, I'll take over this city....then....the surrounding cities...then infiltrate the state government...then the united states....etc etc" hehe

Chestnuts roasted by Kiften @ 08/05/2003 11:35 AM EST

Hey Matt!

Teen witch was on HBO last night - i hope you watched it.

Chestnuts roasted by julia badtouch @ 08/05/2003 11:47 AM EST

oops i dont want to be thought of as rogue female, so i must say "you are a stone-cold hottie matt." :::giggle:::

solid.

Chestnuts roasted by julia badtouch @ 08/05/2003 11:53 AM EST

I love Ecto-Cooler. It's Green like me. But Arkous, nice reciept. But....Wassupwitdat????
I mean, if you wanted to be an investigative reporter like m.... like that other guy I know, you should have just said so. I could have made you S.H.I.T. with Rosie. Beeeeeeaaaaatch!!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Step back!!!!! There's a Hurrican coming through!!!! @ 08/05/2003 12:05 PM EST

ok so i just got back from the grocery store... i was in stocking up on my Mango Madness Snapple and taco fixins, and figured i had to get in on this Ecto-Cooler experiment. i love citrus. i love Ghostbusters. and i loved Ecto-Cooler. i'm amazed at how well i could recall the taste.

i bought the Orange Tangergreen, and the glory that is Ecto-Cooler came flooding back.

i didn't try Lavaburst, and they didn't have any jugs of Hi-C, but this junk is close enough for me.

don't the juice boxes seem so SMALL now~??

YUM DANDY~! oh, and i agree the Matt's a damn fine hottie, and i too am a girl.

Chestnuts roasted by zann @ 08/05/2003 01:05 PM EST

I found this site

http://karks.com/surge/nl22.shtml

they say that Ecto Cooler is now Orange Tangergreen.. and they also have a recipe to make homemade Surge, since they don't make Surge anymore.

Chestnuts roasted by punkrock101 @ 08/05/2003 01:07 PM EST

I agree with the comments about Ecto-Cooler starting out green and then progressing to no color without slimer on the label. it was a bunch of crap.

other topic: Sunny D has a couple flavors now, and the "California Style" garbage tastes more watered down. "Florida Style" is the O.G. of Sunny-D flava

Chestnuts roasted by Archer @ 08/05/2003 01:26 PM EST

I was poor so I only drank dirty tap water. I'm surprised I'm still alive today.

Chestnuts roasted by Basic @ 08/05/2003 02:10 PM EST

one time i was at queens center mall (can i get a big ups to the queens center mall??) and there were these guys giving out free surge when it had just come out, and all my friends drank like 5 cans of the shit each, and then when they peed they said it burned like fire.

Chestnuts roasted by julia badtouch @ 08/05/2003 02:31 PM EST

I read the first article and enjoyed it a lot, excepting that orange lavaburst just replaced the holy ecto cooler I grew up with. Now that there is this debate, I could probably help you guys out. For some reason in my madness, I saved a single 2nd version of ecto cooler, where it just has a saturn like planet on it and no slimer. I drank all of the carton except one which I have sitting with my he-man, pee-wee, mr. t, star wars, and thundercat figures now. Next time I remember, I ll grab the ingredients off of it if you like. The juice box is still unopened and up for sale to the highest bidder, hahaha.

Chestnuts roasted by jedivoodoo @ 08/05/2003 02:54 PM EST

Okay, besides the receipt posted above, I have more undeniable proof.

I went to Minute Maid's website and found their phone number (1.888.884.8952). I asked (got a guy named Steve) if the Tangergreen stuff was indeed Ecto Cooler. After a long while on hold (it apparently took some time to look up), he told me that they were indeed the same flavor. So there you go. If you don't believe it, call yourself.

Chestnuts roasted by Redmonkey @ 08/05/2003 03:05 PM EST

TELL US MAN!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SPILL IT!!! WHATS IN THE STUFF?!?!

Chestnuts roasted by The Ponderer @ 08/05/2003 03:08 PM EST

Redmonkey, I'm at work now so I can't call (but I can read X-E, how does that work?) but someone should call and repeat the question, replacing "Tangergreen" with "Lavaburst" to see if they say the same thing.

Chestnuts roasted by John @ 08/05/2003 03:10 PM EST

Wow...amazing how many people remember Ecto Cooler.

If Minute Maid ever decided to start selling Ecto Cooler again, it'd be a huge success just because of the nostalgia factor...

Chestnuts roasted by Paul @ 08/05/2003 03:19 PM EST

Yeah, John's got the right idea -- the PR people could be misinformed.

I think the evidence definitely is there for Tangergreen being EC's spiritual successor, though -- I was sold at that stunning UPC scan evidence.

How about this: Arkous, return to that store and get a can of Lavaburst and show us the receipt? That could verify once and for all that Lavaburst is NOT Ecto Cooler, as I have been maintaining.

Chestnuts roasted by J64 @ 08/05/2003 03:23 PM EST

Matt, with his widely read Web site, has the opportunity to go through their external communications department to get answers. He'll get a little more attention than people who merely call the consumer relations number.

Chestnuts roasted by Ubu Rex @ 08/05/2003 03:24 PM EST

Big ups to Queen's Center Mall, and much love to Pac, and all the other brothers, couldn't be here, we all pour a little ecto cooler out for y'all homies. Much, much love.

Chestnuts roasted by CalmingEffect @ 08/05/2003 03:49 PM EST

Okay, that's quite enough. The rest of us have reigned in our inner fangirls up until now. There's no need to turn this into a frothfest for Matt like Tim Curry's in TWW. I think it's pretty well established that Matt is a sexy man. Also well established that he has a special lady, who I am sure is also lovely. What is it about 80's nostalgia that makes a webmaster so sexy?

Chestnuts roasted by squee4242 @ 08/05/2003 03:49 PM EST

on the subject of surge...that stuff was so powerful my friend stopped drinking soda altogether. he would chug so much surge everyday then they stopped making it and he hasn't drank soda since. It was so addictive it ruined his mind! He's a little strange at times...

Chestnuts roasted by heeloyd @ 08/05/2003 03:52 PM EST

"whos' steve guttenburg?"

BURN THE HEATHEN!!

(Click me.)

Chestnuts roasted by JC @ 08/05/2003 04:07 PM EST

Okay. So I called the number and asked the dude if he remembered Ecto-Cooler with slimer. He said yes. I said that there was a debate between Orange Lavaburst and Orange Tangergreen as to whether either one of them were the same thing. He did some typing for a second and said that indeed the Tangergreen was the same as Ecto-Cooler.
Now if someone wants final proof, you could always call back and ask "Was Orange Tangergreen called by a different name before?" But I'm satisfied with the results.

Chestnuts roasted by Big Will @ 08/05/2003 04:45 PM EST

Well, that settles it.

Orange Tangergreen = Ecto-Cooler

The picture on the front of the box with the liquid that looks exactly like Slimer without eyes does it for me.

Chestnuts roasted by Chris @ 08/05/2003 05:34 PM EST

tomorrow I am calling Minute Maid in order and will demand to speak with the manager to solve this mystery!

Chestnuts roasted by Jeremy @ 08/05/2003 08:47 PM EST

Tomorrow I'm calling an English Teacher in order to learn proper sentence structure.

Chestnuts roasted by Big Will @ 08/05/2003 08:50 PM EST

Tomorrow I'm calling Jeremy to let him know we figured it out yesterday.

Chestnuts roasted by Chris @ 08/05/2003 10:36 PM EST

Don't know if this adds anything but here goes:
I work for a supermarket, that carries Both products. And for some reason our shelf tags (which list the product and it's UPC number) for Tangi-green is still labelled Ecto-Cooler. More than likely Hi-C changed the products name as Slimer died out, and lef thte UPC code the same.

Chestnuts roasted by Steve T @ 08/06/2003 12:58 AM EST

I distinctly remember Ecto-Cooler being in the local Tops supermarket in like 2000, it had to have been that recent. I remember the straws changing color too, from orange to green, maybe that's around the time they turned the drinks all piss-yellow. Also, if in that comic, Slimer poos in the orange vat turning it green, wouldn't the color of the new Ecto-Cooler be orange, seeing that it's sans the Slimer dung?

By the way, Ted Dibiase is most definetly NOT Amish OR Catholic, he's Pentecostal. I heard him and Sting preach at an Acquire the Fire event in Cleveland.

Chestnuts roasted by GhostofEdLeslie @ 08/06/2003 03:53 AM EST

OMG! Just ran next door to the Piggly Wiggly (http://www.thepig.net/) and bought a pack of Tangergreen... Looked at my receipt and it says "HI C ECTO COOLER"... WOW! I participated in the Ecto-Cooler mystery... Yeah!

Chestnuts roasted by sallizar @ 08/06/2003 09:29 AM EST

They say a man who drinks ecogreen never fears for his life. They say a man who drinks ecogreen never lacks for toilet paper. They say a man who drinks ecogreen is a prince among men.

Chestnuts roasted by a @ 08/06/2003 11:54 AM EST

Ecogreen? Wha?

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/06/2003 01:00 PM EST

I remember when I was in elementary school, I got in trouble once because people thought it had mountain dew (pop was not allowed) when, in fact, I had ecto-cooler. It was green when I had it and that was circa 1993.

Chestnuts roasted by lsdfkjdsfljk @ 08/06/2003 01:23 PM EST

...but it was from the jug poured into a juice container. I guess im too ghetto for the boxes.

Chestnuts roasted by lsdfkjdsfljk @ 08/06/2003 01:25 PM EST

I, as many virtually-present fans on this forum, was quite a fan of the famed Ecto-Cooler. In an effort to relieve my quenching for childhood nostalgia, I have searched eagerly for this elusive Tangergreen drink. After visiting 12 shopping marts, I have temporarily ceased my journey. I settled, however, for a jug of the ever-present Lavaburst. All I can say is this consumable, if it qualifies as such, is the most nauseating beverage I have ever consumed. I have, since drinking this poison, been hunched over in a state of dizziness and am most likely the most recent victim of acute pancreatic shock. I recall the Ecto-Cooler being a bit less potent then the Lavaburst, but until I find the Tangergreen, I will still wonder whether the liquids are closely comparable to the Ecto-Cooler, or whether I have simply developed an acquired sucrose immunodeficiency to this nectar. Or, possibly, I have gained such an appreciation of Grey Goose vodka that my capacity to enjoy such beverages has become distorted. But without the friendly Goose, how else could I justify a journey across the city for artificially colored liquid sugar tempered with a mild dose of Vitamin C?

Chestnuts roasted by GodLessAmerica @ 08/06/2003 01:29 PM EST

I have purchased both kinds of the HI-C. While the Lavaburst has that little, werid taste after it that is familar, I must go with the Tangerine as the true. Ecto-Cooler.

*P.S. - Don't mix them together. It was pointless and looked like I was drinking dark piss.

Chestnuts roasted by Sanjuro @ 08/06/2003 03:02 PM EST

comments? im confused. I like potatoes. potatoes start green and then change colors too.

I think about potatoes alot.

Chestnuts roasted by vroomazoom @ 08/06/2003 03:42 PM EST

Drink shasta. Enjoy the runs.

Chestnuts roasted by vorhees @ 08/06/2003 04:43 PM EST

... WE'VE FOUND... THE ANSWER...

UPC labels, people, UPC labels.

As sallizar posted a few hours up, "OMG! Just ran next door to the Piggly Wiggly... and bought a pack of Tangergreen... Looked at my receipt and it says "HI C ECTO COOLER"..."

That's the answer, folks. As those of you that aren't stunned at the concept of lasers and math know, a UPC label contains a bunch of numbers, unique to a particular product, that ring up that particular item when scanned. Obviously, when they first put Ecto Cooler into the Piggly Wiggly computer system, they had it's UPC stored. Then, when Tangergreen was created Hi-C used the same UPC number, but the Piggly Wiggly never noticed they new name and never changed it in the computer. Hi-C has spoken, and by using the same UPC number as Ecto Cooler, they have named the spiritual successor to it... Tangergreen.

"Ya backed the wrong horse, my friend." -Master Shake

Oh, and for the record, I don't find you particularly attractive Matt. And I am most definately NOT a girl.

Chestnuts roasted by New Resident of Bluffton, South Carolina @ 08/06/2003 07:12 PM EST

Hey Matt. as the person from South Carolina said, I also got a recipt back when I got Tangergreem and it says HI C Ecto on it, I even scanned the recipt to prove it.

Also I e-mailed Minute Made about this. This is the answer I got.

Thank you for contacting Minute Maid. We are glad to hear from a fan of Hi-C Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen like you and apologize that you have not been able to find it in your preferred packaging.
Unfortunately, we do not keep a list of store names and addresses in our department because the availability information changes so frequently; therefore, I suggest that you check with the manager of your favorite store to see if he or she can order it for you. It may be necessary to purchase the product by the case in order for the store to order it.
We do offer a complete line of products to the suppliers of the retail grocery stores. These suppliers, based on grocer demands, decide what to stock. We cannot, however, insist that either party carry our products.
You may also be interested to know that Hi-C Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen, has a similar flavor profile to Hi-C Ecto Cooler.
If you have additional questions or comments, please feel free to visit our web site again.
Edward
Industry and Consumer Affairs

Ecto Cooler is Tangergreen, and Lava Burst is HI-C Orange. Nuff said. If you want the scan of the recipt let me know.

Chestnuts roasted by Nick @ 08/06/2003 07:47 PM EST

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Yuck%20Mud/Ecto+proof.jpg

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Yuck%20Mud/Ecto+Cooler.jpg

here are the scans of both recipts I got. One is 3 Tangergreens, the other is Lavaburst and Tangergreen.

Ecto was allways green, but Hi-C takes the food coloring out of the boxed drinks. Because if you buy a gallon of any Hi-c it has the color in it.

Chestnuts roasted by Nick (again) @ 08/06/2003 08:05 PM EST

Hey Nick, What's the area code of that store. I want to prank call them. :)))

Chestnuts roasted by Big Will @ 08/06/2003 08:56 PM EST

I think we're gonna have to take the Delorian out for a spin to figure this one out. Apparently this mystery unfolds in the 50s : http://theimaginaryworld.com/prod53.jpg

Chestnuts roasted by Greekgold @ 08/07/2003 12:02 AM EST

umm when i had oraneg lavaburst at McDonalds (they have it in teh fountain) it was ornage as orange can be
not no piss ass yellow

Chestnuts roasted by eddiejay @ 08/07/2003 02:12 AM EST

also 1 more thing
LIME is totallyf uckin better than lemon
::::::drinks island lime soda::::::

Chestnuts roasted by eddie jay @ 08/07/2003 02:16 AM EST

er...sine people are still posting here and since this is soft drink related...was moubntsain dew the drink that used to make your tounge go green/blue. im talking about both in uk and usa. i have a friend who buys mountain dew from america off ebay, and it doesnt make his tounge go blue

Chestnuts roasted by 'tin man @ 08/07/2003 05:44 AM EST

I just realized that the Tangergreen I bought yesterday does not say "Does not stain" on the label like Matt's does... It's GREEN in teh juice box folks!! Marvelous, Marvelous GREEN!! If I can get my hands on a digital camera I'll take a pic or two...

Chestnuts roasted by sallizar @ 08/07/2003 08:53 AM EST

I dunno what the fuss is about. Every time I go fishin down at Hallas Creek, I gets tons of this hear green water. I can just scoops its up and it tastes real purty. Yous all seem to like this stuff. I thinks I will start selling this in boxes, maybee puts me a dog on it too and sell its for money. Like ina roadside stand like in Jaskson County.

Chestnuts roasted by Cooter @ 08/07/2003 11:02 AM EST

This is entirely off topic, but reading julia badtouch's post about teen witch reminded me:

I was at the video store yesterday, pawing through the 2-for-a-dollar movies, when what to my wandering eyes did appear?

NUKIE.

I thought about renting it but I got Dust Devil instead. It was terrible. You should rent it, Matt.

Chestnuts roasted by freakachu @ 08/07/2003 11:35 AM EST

From: Minute Maid Support [mailto:minutemaid.support@na.ko.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: Minute Maid Contact Form

Thank you for contacting Minute Maid, Mr. Muschong. We are glad to hear from a fan of Hi-C brands like you.

Unfortunately, Hi-C Ecto Cooler has been discontinued. However, you may be interested in sampling the Hi-C Shoutin" Orange Tangergreen, which has a similar flavor profile.

Your loyalty to our brands is certainly appreciated. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to visit our Web site again.

Noelle
Industry and Consumer Affairs

[THREAD ID:1-35P99W]

Chestnuts roasted by punkrock101 @ 08/07/2003 12:52 PM EST

I've been buying Orange Tangergreen and enjoying the Ecto-y goodness ever since I saw the stuff stocked above a tag that said "Ecto Cooler" at the local Shop Rite.

Never underestimate the value of UPC shelf tags.

Chestnuts roasted by SpiderGuy @ 08/07/2003 02:29 PM EST

Wow. Just, wow.
Let me comment on how thrilling and satisfying it was to read through this whole thread. It was like a realtime mystery novel in whih everyone contributed! And we figured it out! I'm going to try and get some Tangergreen as soon as possible now. I LOVED Ecto Cooler!

I remember I went to my cousin's house one time and they had huge jugs of it because she HAD to drink it, due to some mysterious medical condition I never followed up on. I should ask her about it.

Oh and I'm glad someone else brought up Surge. When that stuff first came out I swore it tasted like carbonated Ecto Cooler. My friends and I also re-enacted the Surge commercials.

Oh yeah, I also remember when I was a kid I promised myself that NO MATTER WHAT, when I was old enough to have a car I was going to get a license plate that read "ECTO-1" just like in Ghostbusters.

Faded dreams man...

Chestnuts roasted by UniAce @ 08/07/2003 06:51 PM EST

steve guttenburg is often spotted in posh L.A eateries from what i hear. and apparently he's all buffed up and beefcake nowadays.

Chestnuts roasted by dick @ 08/07/2003 06:52 PM EST

Oh yeah, have we found Bitner yet??

Chestnuts roasted by UniAce @ 08/07/2003 06:54 PM EST

i remember it being green as well mostly cause i remember it coming up that funny brown color through the orange straw. i actually remember buying it from shop-rote only a couple years ago, but to tell you the truth i don't remember if slimer was still on it. i do know it had to be Ecto-cooler though cause if not i wouldn't have bought it cause that was the only kind i liked. untill now i never even thought about ecto-cooler but now i'm deff. checking to see if shop-rite still has it. as for something being the "new Ecto" i don't think anything could replace it without having slimer on the box. without slimer it just isn't ecto.

Chestnuts roasted by SublimeObsessedMidget @ 08/07/2003 08:37 PM EST

after a tiny bit of pointless investigating ive found out that both ecto-cooler and shoutin' orange tangergreen share the same UPC code...could they be the same product? actually...it wasnt investigating i was in the grocery store and the place had a ecto cooler price tag up with the tangergreen in its place...one look at both told me that the upcs were the same. maybe it is the same procust after all. dunno its up to you. i just miss slimer on the box.

Chestnuts roasted by ryan @ 08/07/2003 08:40 PM EST

Where, pray tell, did you find Tangergreen? I can't find a store that carries it.

Chestnuts roasted by Smeg @ 08/07/2003 09:08 PM EST

You will note that we have two different Hi-C reps claiming that Tangergreen has a "similar", but not "same", flavor "profile" as Ecto Cooler. Now what we need is to have someone with 10-year-old juice boxes and way to much time on their hands scan the ingredients of Ecto Cooler so we can compare the two. That's the only answer to this mystery, and if my guess isn't mistaken, I believe we'd find that Tangergreen and Ecto Cooler have in fact the same ingredient "profile". I just don't think Hi-C would relish the fact that they changed nothing about the drink itself but simply decided that Slimer had run his course and repacked the liquid as Tangergreen. That'd be difficult to explain to the stock-holders (and might I say, I wish I was one, considering the verve mid-twenty-somethings have put into getting to the bottom of this mystery).

Also, notice how this thread is getting long as well? Not rivaling PFC Nathan Bitner, mind you, but it just goes to show that people love a mystery.

Chestnuts roasted by That guy from South Carolina (still loathing Heather Ramage) @ 08/07/2003 11:37 PM EST

The only Hi-C I have ever had the joy of drinking is Hi-C Fruit Punch. We have it at work and i don't drink cokes and things like them. It is good. I think I may have to start getting juice boxes and will have to try this new Ecto-cooler. I remember the other kids having it even though i am young and it probably went out a while ago.

Chestnuts roasted by geezusjones @ 08/09/2003 04:27 AM EST

what was the drink that stained your tounge?

Chestnuts roasted by 'tin Man @ 08/09/2003 10:36 AM EST

[
Thank you for contacting Minute Maid, Mr. Groom. We are glad to hear from a fan of Hi-C brands like you.

Unfortunately, Hi-C Ecto Cooler has been discontinued. However, you may be interested in sampling the Hi-C Shoutin" Orange Tangergreen, which has a similar flavor profile.

Your loyalty to our brands is certainly appreciated. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to visit our Web site again.

Noelle
Industry and Consumer Affairs
]

Look familiar, punkrock? Yeah, I got the same letter. They must have some kind of barebone profile for letters to send out, and we got the 'idiots asking too much info about Ecto' one. Same Noelle, too. I wonder if she has a boyfriend...<333

Oh, and I think Matt's attractive. I'd do him... and I hope he takes fear in that statement.

and I'm a guy ;D

Chestnuts roasted by Omni @ 08/09/2003 11:18 AM EST

punkrock101, I got the SAME exact email from Hi-C. The only difference is that they wrote my name instead of yours. They probably just see that the letter is about Ecto Cooler and automatically send it to you, which is evident because they didn't answer a single question I asked.

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/09/2003 11:53 AM EST

I sent another message asking for an actual letter written by Noelle herself, or at least the highest Hi-C authority available. lol

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/09/2003 12:02 PM EST

Even though I happen to be the only person still on the case, I'll post this here as I find it pretty important information. I have gotten my actual letter written by Ms. Noelle herself. Here it is:

Thank you for contacting us again, Mr. Gallagher. We appreciate your continued
interest.

As you may know, flavor formulations are one of our most valuable assets. For
that reason, we can not comment on specific flavors, however, we can tell you
that Ecto Cooler and Screamin' Orange Tangergreen have very similar flavor
profiles.

We hope this is helpful. We certainly appreciate your patronage and invite you
to visit our Web site again. Best wishes!

Stacey
Industry and Consumer Affairs
The Coca-Cola Company

So does this mean that Screamin' Orange Tangergreen and Ecto Cooler are very similar, but not one in the same?

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/11/2003 04:23 PM EST

PS. My bad, Noelle didn't write it, Stacey did. Whatever. I guess Stacey has more Hi-C authority than Noelle.

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/11/2003 04:27 PM EST

It sounds to me that That Guy From South Carolina has it figured out. I think they didn't want to tell people that it was the same drink, so they say it has similar "flavor profiles." Looking at the picture of that ancient can of Citrus Cooler makes me wonder how many times HiC changed the name for the same product. Just 3 times? or more?

I went to buy the Orange Tangergreen (they didn't have it) and I ended up with Lavaburst instead. Definately just HiC Orange. Did anyone else notice that ALL the HiC flavors at the store have crazy names now? even the plain old fruit punch and orange flavors.

Chestnuts roasted by Archer @ 08/11/2003 05:05 PM EST

Don't worry about being the only one on the case, keep us posted. Many of us just don't add comments often...

Chestnuts roasted by Brent @ 08/13/2003 11:15 AM EST

Ecto Cooler fans: the best is yet to come, and I mean really, really soon. All the mysteries will be solved, and the past will be uncovered. It's Ecto Mania -- for real, this time.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/13/2003 06:20 PM EST

You're not writing another article about Ecto Cooler are you Matt? lol

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/14/2003 08:28 PM EST

You're not writing another article about Ecto Cooler are you Matt? lol

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/14/2003 08:28 PM EST

No, he'll write about rainbow bright cereal again. I actually puked when my mother fed me crispy critters. Still remember the vomit's cardboard aftertaste.

Chestnuts roasted by turkeys can't fly? @ 08/15/2003 04:22 PM EST

Hey, I don't know if they have Jewel grocery stores out by you guys, but for those who know of the chain, check out the Jewel brand "Citrus Cooler" fruit juice drink. It is with the Hi-C stuff, and it was always the generic version of Ecto-Cooler, and it is still neon green too. I'd buy it, but right now I've only got room in my heart for one green drink, and that's dnL. I know it doesn't have slimer, but the stuff always tasted like Ecto-Cooler, and I'd be a good benchmark for any taste test comparisons.

Chestnuts roasted by Edward Charles @ 08/17/2003 12:49 AM EST

I've spent the last 3 hours reading all posts on ecto cooler and i too am a curious one

and as far as the UPC codes go...is it posible that Hi-C was just too lazy to make a new code for Tangergreen? I mean, if a product is going to be discontinued, why not just reuse the code? instead of making a whole new code for a renamed slightly changed product, wouldnt reusing a UPC code be mroe resourceful

i need to find Tangergreen now

now now now

Chestnuts roasted by BB @ 08/17/2003 02:55 AM EST

From what I remember, the juice itself was orange in color and the straw that went into the carton was green.

Chestnuts roasted by Jonathan @ 08/17/2003 08:14 AM EST

Ok, I admit, I've never even heard of ecto-cooler. Sure I used to watch the real ghostbusters cartoon, had the "ecto plasma slime" but never caught on to slimermania. Maybe the stress of going into junior high was to much.
I know that companies will use the same upc code for a product when they change the name for a short period of time. Don't know if Americans have something similar,
but in my day mini-sips were the
drink of champions. They sold for 10 cents a piece (before that stupid gst). Basically they were a bag of kool-aid with about 35x the sugar. Used to ride my bmx for hrs!

Chestnuts roasted by turkeys can't fly? @ 08/17/2003 03:59 PM EST

Glad to find out the truth about what happened to the drink I loved so dear... now if only I could find it here in Canada. Damnation! Guess whenever I make another trip to the US, I'll have to stock up.

..."Orange Tangergreen", though? Sure, it's got the "truth in advertising" thing going for it, but...

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Chestnuts roasted by LBD "Nytetrayn" @ 08/20/2003 02:56 AM EST

omg i loved ecto cooler yes it was green! i have been looking for it everywhere. I think we should all email hi-c to tell them to make it again. i miss the stuff it was so yummy. http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_contact/index.html

Chestnuts roasted by AZ KITTY @ 03/19/2004 10:02 PM EST

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Chestnuts roasted by dude @ 04/06/2004 11:39 AM EST

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Chestnuts roasted by dude @ 04/06/2004 11:40 AM EST

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Chestnuts roasted by dude @ 04/06/2004 11:40 AM EST

You can buy ecto cooler online at : http://www.netgrocer.com/detail.cfm?oid=137309&smallFrm=yes

This link should take you to an online grocery site and u can order orange tangergreen but the item description is a picture of the ecto cooler!

Chestnuts roasted by Bootleg Greg @ 04/29/2004 10:03 AM EST

I actually have a glass of ector cooler in my hand, it is neon green, I actually have a 2 gallon jug of it in my refrigerator, id take a picture but I dont have my camera.

its a generic brand called Citrus Cooler, its been around since back in the day :)

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