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05/03/2003 Entry: "X2...."

Saw it, loved it.

It is time to finish what we started all those many years ago, back when this plastic prison still seemed cutting edge. Charles...are you ready?

No. Not now not ever.

Charles...you promised. You promised me that, someday, we would match wits again. Just because I'm a convict doesn't mean there's shame in your eventual defeat. So many would consider us equals, Charles. I know you can't stand the comparisons any more than myself. Let us put all theories and doubts to rest -- it's time to crown a champion between us. Choose your sword.

NO, NO NO NO. I've told you a thousand times - I'm not playing that game.

You will.

I won't.

You will.

I won't.

You won't.

I'm not falling for that old trick.

What in God's name is going on in there? Guards, hit the magic button that sprays debilitating mist in the prison. I know one of the buttons must do that.

OUT!!! GET ME OUT LIKE TROUT LIKE TROUT GET ME OUT.

Why is he freaking? There's no way 'Magneto' can cause him any harm in there. I hate these old bats. Now where's that mist?

LIKE TROUT LIKE TROUT LIKE TROUT!

You're a chicken, Charles. I was going to let you be the red piece, too.

REPLIES: 73 comments

Saw it last night, loved the nod to Beast and Gambit. Confused as to why Colossus would get a cameo, sans Russian accent, though. Also, here in London we got huge promos going on about Lady Death Stryke, so I was a bit confused as to why she got no lines and her "Mutant Name" was never mentioned in the actual film.

Chestnuts roasted by Hannah @ 05/03/2003 03:48 PM EST

Holy continuity. I remember the first Gremlins X-Men battle from years ago. :)

Chestnuts roasted by X-Factor @ 05/03/2003 03:49 PM EST

gambit reference!? there better fucking well be! i STILL can't believe they left him out. cripes.

Chestnuts roasted by evin @ 05/03/2003 05:10 PM EST

I missed both the gambit, and beast reference. I now know where the beast one is, but I still don't know on gambit.

Chestnuts roasted by brandon @ 05/03/2003 05:32 PM EST

Ok, saw syren, beast (McCoy), kitty pride, colossus and one or two more.

Where the hell did you see Gambit at? How did I miss that? What part was he in???

Chestnuts roasted by Ronnie Pruitt @ 05/03/2003 06:09 PM EST

I'd like to know where the Beast and Gambit cameos are too. It's not just the names on the computer, is it? My friend was disappointed Gambit wasn't in it, that she could see...

Chestnuts roasted by Amanda @ 05/03/2003 06:15 PM EST

Gambit was on the scroll-down list that Mystique was hackin into, under Eric Lenshirr(Magneto) was Remy LeBeau (Gambit's real name).

Y'all see Jubilee as well?

Chestnuts roasted by Big Al @ 05/03/2003 06:21 PM EST

Gambit's cameo scene was cut. Here is the guy who played him:
http://www.stuntscanada.net/members/bamford/bamford_main.htm

Chestnuts roasted by Remy @ 05/03/2003 08:25 PM EST

Yeah, ended up just being on the scroll down list on the computer. Putting Hank on screen though leads me to believe he'll be in the next one. And that guy does resemble Remy, though I'd heard rumors James Marsters was up for it.

Chestnuts roasted by Hannah @ 05/03/2003 09:09 PM EST

Vis a vi, who else thought Stryker was much more interesting a "Villian" than Senator Weinerface?

Chestnuts roasted by Hannah @ 05/03/2003 09:11 PM EST

Nerd detector: off the charts!

Chestnuts roasted by ljkfyk @ 05/03/2003 09:33 PM EST

solid snake: meryl, no!!! grrrrggbbrrgrgllrrgrr!

Chestnuts roasted by evan/chojin @ 05/03/2003 10:54 PM EST

I got the Toe Jam! Who's got the Peanut Butter..?

Chestnuts roasted by Monkebutt @ 05/04/2003 09:40 AM EST

there's not much to add on this blog. except that I like girls in skirts!

Chestnuts roasted by brandon @ 05/04/2003 03:06 PM EST

In none Gambit related news...did you guys know if you type in McDonald's Happy Meal Magic in yahoo XE shows up as number 54. That leads to my next question...does anyone know where you can find info on a set of toys called McDonald's Happy Meal Magic snack makers? They are by Mattel and are from 1993. I bought a few sets that are missing pieces and instructions and i want to make some fake burgers dang it. Can anyone help me out? I can only find the french fry maker on e-bay. Am I playing with an imaginary toy. This post is far too long already. The End.

Chestnuts roasted by kennef @ 05/04/2003 07:05 PM EST

Can you say "X3: The Dark Phoenix Saga"?

Chestnuts roasted by Dennis @ 05/04/2003 07:31 PM EST

That's exactly what my sister said. She also said that the ending in the movie is not the same as the ending in the book. I will have to read this to make sure.

Oh, and somebody on another message board thought Nightcrawler's power was farting. Can you believe that?

Chestnuts roasted by Go Knock Jimmy Down @ 05/05/2003 06:22 AM EST

I'm figuring that in "X3" they'll give Colossus a significantly larger role just like they gave Iceman a larger role in "X2". Also, we know that Phoenix is going to be involved in the next installment somehow, right? Since Pheonix has a certain "cosmic" quality about her, wouldn't it be awesome (and appropriate) to make Apocalypse the next major villian?

Chestnuts roasted by The Yeti @ 05/05/2003 08:44 AM EST

Ya know what's funny? Try sneaking up on people, yelling "BAMF!" then jumping out in front of them. Hours of countless fun...

By the way, if a whole "Dark Phoenix Saga" does pop its head up in the next installment, I don't think they would need to include Apocalypse....Think the X-men would have their hands full as it is :)

(Although, put Beast in the room with Dark Phoenix for like 5 minutes and the X-men would be triumphant...that's my little Beast fanboy wishful thinking)

iceman801@yahoo.com

Chestnuts roasted by Psychic Lemur @ 05/05/2003 09:00 AM EST

Sure, Colossus is seen babysitting and having classes, and ROGUE gets to wear an uniform and go out to play mutant hero. How screwed up is THAT?

Chestnuts roasted by Roddy @ 05/05/2003 09:07 AM EST

Gambit was on the list of names on that computer that Mystique hacked. I was kind of pissed that after Wolverine killed Yuriko that he didn't have some flashbacks about how she used to be his girlfriend or whatever. I was also pissed that Colossus was only in it for about 2 minutes. I couldn't have been happier to NOT see that bastard Gambit. X3 I want to see way more Nightcrawler and Colossus, way less Iceman, and an appearance by that indian dude.

Chestnuts roasted by rob @ 05/05/2003 09:37 AM EST

Definitely loved Nightcrawler; and all the cameos rocked. X3 (or even X4, maybe) is definitely going for the Dark Phoenix storyline.

I want an Age of Apocalypse movie :( And I want to be Blink!

Chestnuts roasted by Sarah @ 05/05/2003 02:13 PM EST

My guess is they won't go Dark Pheonix, its just too hard to do. Space, cosmic judgement, gods, armies.... I'm holding out for Jean's rebirth as a "light in the darkest hour" when Sentinels are crushing Mutant Kind and Magneto's little force is slaughtering people(where the heck was Sabertooth?? If ever oh ever a great casting there was Sabretooth was great...because...). My guess is she'll lead the folks to victory. Oh cyclops is a tool. Love how the leader of the frickin' X-Men is five feet tall and looks like puberty is still waiting to strike. Where's the fearless leader of sacrifice!!

Chestnuts roasted by Ethan @ 05/05/2003 08:00 PM EST

Yeah, I don't see Dark Phoenix rising in the third film...too much would have to happen first. If I'm remembering correctly, there was just plain old Phoenix first anyway, and that's more than cool enough for me.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 05/05/2003 08:12 PM EST

Yeah, she should just be Phoenix first. If they keep making the movies that long they can go further with it later.

I would like to see Gambit and Beast, blue fur and all. Colossus should get more of a role as well. They set up Rogue and Iceman to have bigger roles by the end of the movie it seemed. Of course, they need to come up with a way to have the flying, near-indestructible, butt-kicking Rogue of the comics.

Chestnuts roasted by Tikibob @ 05/05/2003 08:31 PM EST

I totally agree about Rogue...it'd be great fun to see her all juiced-up like she is in the comics and the cartoons. Trouble is, they'd have to introduce Mrs. Marvel into the mix so Rogue could siphon out all her tricked-out powers and whatnot. That is, if they wanted to be true to the comics and all, and it's been proven already that they don't mind fuckin' around with the X-lore a little. Also, if they wanted to stay true to the charater's roots, Rogue ought to be a little more slutty. But now I'm nit-picking...

Chestnuts roasted by The Yeti @ 05/05/2003 09:23 PM EST

what's amazing is the price has only gone up $1.25 in 3 years!

Chestnuts roasted by nehi @ 05/05/2003 09:27 PM EST

Thats one thing the 2 Xmen movies have over the comics.

NO FRIGGIN GAMBIT.
(And barely any Cyclops, which is also a plus.)

Then again, my 2 favorite mutant teams were Generation X and Excalibur (original team).

No Cyclops, no Wolverine, no Gambit..

All the losers stayed put in the other books and the wierdoes and more interesting characters got to play.

(Plus Rachel Summers was a much cooler Pheonix than her mommy ever was. And in full body spiked read leather too..)

Chestnuts roasted by Bloodcat @ 05/06/2003 06:13 AM EST

Rather see Longshot, but since his rights are all tied up in his own (never gonna happen) movie, I suppose Gambit is a reasonably acceptable substitute.

BTW, other names on the list (aside from Erik Lensherr and Remy LeBeau) include Jamie Madrox (the Multiple Man), Everett Thomas (Synch), Keniucho Harada (Sunfire), Garrison Kane (Weapon X), Artie Maddicks (Artie), Xi'an Coy Mahn (Karma), Maximoff [2] (Quicksilver & the Scarlet Witch), Kevin McTaggert (Proteus), and Dani Moonstar (Mirage).

And yes, I have waaaaay too much free time on my hands...

Chestnuts roasted by The Lucky One @ 05/06/2003 10:28 AM EST

I'll be so happy if they just leave Gambit out of the movies. There are already too many girls going nuts for Wolverine. They don't need more fuel.

Did anyone else laugh when Cyclops and Wolverine were crying over Jean? I had to bite my lip so the other people in the theater wouldn't kill me.

Chestnuts roasted by fangirlx @ 05/06/2003 11:34 PM EST

Mmmmm Nightcrawler. I swear I almost cried when he was a bad guy in the beginning.

And no they won't do Dark phoenix. The creators have already shown a dislike of any actual DEEP history of mutant powers. So I assume that Jean will just develop flaming psionic powers.

Ooooo Apocolypse = Archangel for sure. That's going to be something cool on the movie screen. Lots of flashy steel wings killing everything.

Chestnuts roasted by Bebo the Mutant Sloth @ 05/07/2003 12:52 AM EST

I LOVED the movie... but personally I was a little disappointed that Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat) was not developed further ~ I think they jumped the shark with her character as she was portrayed as a teen in the 1st movie (in the classroom phasing through for her textbook) and a little girl in this one. Other than that it was great and I look forward to the next installment.... they will definitely introduce Phoenix, why else would they bother to put the symbol in the water?

Chestnuts roasted by Me @ 05/07/2003 05:17 AM EST

In the same scene with all the names on the computer, Mystique looks at another screen and sees the file about Cerebro. Directly to the left of that file was a file labeled: Franklin Richards. For those of you not in the know, Franklin Richards is the mutant son of The Fantastic Four's Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards) and The Invisible Woman (Sue Storm Richards).
Yes I admit to my geekdom:)

Chestnuts roasted by Goose @ 05/07/2003 11:42 AM EST

It does my heart good to see that I am not the only person on the planet that obsessively hoards movie stubs for years at a time. Thanks.

Chestnuts roasted by squee4242 @ 05/07/2003 03:44 PM EST

Who the hell is Artie and whats his power beside sticking out his lizard tounge? Who was the kid that doesn't fall asleep? Anybody know of a site that lists all the x-men and there powers. Why didn't Iceman change into ice? And is Longshot really getting his own movie, hes not that popular of a character. And put the danger room in

Chestnuts roasted by The Shiz @ 05/07/2003 06:40 PM EST

hey i didnt see beast's cameo, where was it? and at the end how come iceman didnt just freeze all the water coming out of the dam? but i still loved the movie.

Chestnuts roasted by RagingCactuar @ 05/08/2003 02:20 AM EST

Hey, I save old movie tickets too! AMAZING! I think I've been keeping mine for the past 10 years or so, I'm glad to know I'm not the only one so I don't have to feel bad.

I'm proud to say I saw all of the cameo's, and even read a bit of that list of mutants on the computer screen the opening night, without hearing anything about any of it beforehand. GO ME! (thats so little to be proud of, but it's still something)

the movie was very good!

Chestnuts roasted by Ryan @ 05/09/2003 12:33 AM EST

OK, call me a fool but I am not in any way familiar with the comics and did not catch any cameos so if you could please educate an ignorant..who the hell is Gambit, Beast and any other cameos that made there way in besides 1/2 a second on a computer screen. As well why the hell did Jean leave the damn plane when it wasn't necessary? To make a dramatic sequel, so she wouldn't have to choose between Cyclops and Wolverine, so the could have some pathetic male bonding moments at the end? Please educate..

Chestnuts roasted by curio @ 05/09/2003 10:39 AM EST

Here Curio, I'll help you out. The Beast was a professor who developed really big hands and feet by accident, so he made a solution or something to get rid of their bigness. Unlucky for him, he grew blue fur all over his body. Looking like the freak he did, he went to Xavier's school to help out, save the world on occasion, etc. His cameo was when the prison guard was drinking in the bar, before Mystique injected him with liquid metal. Over the bar on a tv screen you can see someone named "Dr. Hank McCoy" being interviewed. That was the Beast's real name.

Chestnuts roasted by mattbowes @ 05/09/2003 12:27 PM EST

I'm a huge Gambit fan so I'd like to see him in the next movie. But what I haven't seen mentioned are a lot of the villains. I think that Juggernaut or Mr. Sinister would make some interesting villains but that's getting more into the far-out category. But seriously, I'm getting so tired of Magneto and the Brotherhood. I think the Juggernaut would be completely do-able but it really wouldn't have a whole lot of plot. The Sentinels would also be a cool thing to introduce though I'm not sure how that'd fit (i'm not versed in Xmen lore, just watched the cartoons from the early 90s). Also I'd have to concur that somewhere along the line Rogue needs to get all her powers. But yeah, they definitely better introduce Gambit (and Bishop would be cool too) in the 3rd one.

Chestnuts roasted by Swordfish 2 @ 05/10/2003 01:14 AM EST

Of all the X-Men that weren't included in this movie, Gambit would be the perfect wild card to introduce in X3. He'd do more good than bad if he was a part of the next installment.

Gambit would be easy to throw into the mix due to the fact that his mutant powers don't suck, he meshes well with the other X-Men, and he has a thing for Rogue. His presence wouldn't fuck up the plot at all either.

If your Bryan Singer (if he decides to direct X3), you get smart real quick and include Gambit next time.

Chestnuts roasted by Traceon @ 05/10/2003 04:37 AM EST

A bodybag Daniel A BODYBAG Nyahahahahahahaahahaah!

Chestnuts roasted by IfellofMyBike @ 05/10/2003 06:38 AM EST

Hey,

first up, j'adore X-E, you and the new bloggy section.

I've seen X2 4 times in the last two weeks, I like it that much.

Little cameo hints I got?

When Mystiique is hacking Stryker or Yurko's PC, before she clicks on Cerero II there's a lot of other files. One as mentioned above, is Franklin Richards.

Two others were Operation Wideawake(The biggest sentinel initiative the US goverment ever tried) and Omega Red(Do I need to explain? ;)

Anywho's, I'm off to try and revise and stop thinking about beautiful blue mutants...

With wonderful angelic symbols :)

Keep X-E going strong Matt, I adore.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt(Not the Matt, a different one.) @ 05/10/2003 01:05 PM EST

Hey, i loved X2 but i definitely would have liked to see more Colossus. He would have been way better than Iceman and Pyro. He only had like one minute in the movie, but it was a great scene. Also if the next movie isn't the Phoenix Saga i would like to see Apocalypse as the new villain and an appearance by Archangel.

Chestnuts roasted by Sean @ 05/11/2003 12:25 AM EST

I happened to be upset that Gambit wasn't able to grace the screen of the magical movie X2. I look forward to seeing X3 so I can see him take names and kick some serious ass. He better be played by someone cool. ok, look here, Gambit haters... i have something to say. You guys suck. Gambit owns all of your bones, ok? He has the coolest lines in the comics and the TV shows... do you know anyone else who can throw explosive cards at people? Come on, what a freakin awesome trenchcoat... and those red eyes, oo man. If I could be any one of the X-Men, I'd be him for sure. Go find some friends Gambit haters.

Chestnuts roasted by themightytangelo @ 05/11/2003 01:33 AM EST

Beast didn't grow his big hands and feet by accident...He's a mutant, and that's his power. Otherwise that's pretty much true. Artie was in the comics. He used to hang around Generation X.

I wonder is the horrible Generation X TV movie a part of X-Men movie continuity? What about that "X-Man" TV show that they had a little while back?

Chestnuts roasted by Rosy @ 05/11/2003 03:56 AM EST

Where's the first X-Men Gremlins battle?

Chestnuts roasted by "MR. GAME & WATCH" @ 05/11/2003 11:47 AM EST

I agree with u themightytangelo
Gambit is the shit and anyone who doesnt think so needs to be clubbed over the head and drug 100 feet behind a car.
I definetly think him and beast will rule all ass if introduced in the next movie.
BTW GAMBIT RULES!!!!!

Chestnuts roasted by mutt84 @ 05/11/2003 04:03 PM EST

The Beast didn't have big hands and feet. He was part of the original 5, he was just a big regular guy that had the abilities of a big powerful ape. His powers were getting out of control, so he wanted to cure it but made things worse and made him self bigger, blue,and fuzzier. Also can someone tell me who Artie is and his power, and what is Stryker's son's mutant name?

Chestnuts roasted by The Shiz @ 05/12/2003 05:42 PM EST

With a burning phoenix in the water the chances are 50/50 the next movie will be Hollywood's version of the "Dark Phoenix". It's a sure bet they won't follow the comic book storyline (they never do...which is a good thing) Brian Singer (director) has one condition for X3: he directs something else before X3 and adds Warren Worthington (Angel) to the mix. From what I've read, he likes this character, and since he's made a zillion dollars with both...I think he'll get to add Angel. A blue Beast would also add a fun character...

Chestnuts roasted by Odie @ 05/13/2003 08:20 PM EST

ok another question...what's the connection with Jean going all firey and the feelings that something "terrible" is going to happen???

Chestnuts roasted by curio @ 05/13/2003 11:34 PM EST

Dark Phoenix? No such thing...

The firey effect was because of the Phoenix Force. Jean Grey, at least as far as the comics go, will be put in a cocoon at the bottom of that bay (though it wasn't in Canada, in the comic) and the Phoenix Force will create a copy of her body and use it to try and dominate humanity and such.

And damn straight they better have Archangel.

Chestnuts roasted by Cthulhu @ 06/09/2003 06:16 PM EST