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10/23/2008: Halloween Countdown ‘08: Old Count Chocula.

Today’s topic: Old Count Chocula. Hold your applause.

In 1987, General Mills faced public backlash upon releasing the revamped (ah ah ah) Count Chocula box design seen above. What at first glance seems only to be a whimsical pairing of Chocula and Dracula unveils a more sinister truth if you look hard enough. Apparently, Count Dracula was Jewish.

Yes, Dracula’s medallion, which I’ve seen realized in symbols ranging from X-shaped crosses to metal skulls, took on the unmistakable form of the Star of David. To be fair, I’ve seen Dracula’s medallion in this shape before, but for whatever reason, it just seems so much more Jewishy here. I’m not sure why people were in such an uproar over the suggestion that Dracula was Jewish; I know I’d be pretty elated if I found out he was Catholic.

Many people complained about Dracula’s newfound faith, and General Mills felt compelled to redesign the box. Bah. The kind of people who complained about what Dracula’s necklace looked like were not the kind of people who’d buy their kids Count Chocula cereal anyway. General Mills should’ve rebutted by adding a bindi to Franken Berry’s forehead.

I’m usually surprised by how well my collection of antique cereal holds up, but that isn’t the case here. The cereal smells really, really bad — akin to a pair of damp socks rotated over the feet of Earth’s 50 most disgusting men. The old school Count Chocula paw-shaped marshmallows have either disintegrated or simply fossilized to the point where they’re indiscernible from the more numerous frosted ghost oats.

Part of the reason for Count Chocula’s rancidity is that the cereal was forged from far more hardcore ingredients in 1987 than it is today. The second most prominent ingredient was sugar — and not some wacky sugar substitute with an eighteen-syllable name, either…REAL sugar. Real sugar is awesome, but when it goes bad, it means it. Almost every sugary marshmallowy kiddy cereal has seen its recipe changed for the healthier over the years. Count Chocula still tastes good today, but in 1987, it could be bartered for baseball cards and handheld assault weapons on the black market.

The General Mills “Monster Cereals” debuted during a time when the classic Universal Monsters were the focus of virtually every small boy’s imagination. That long-lived fad was in a coma by the time I was growing up, so it was nice to see something so consistently horrific — even if it was just breakfast.

Even the freebies that came with the Monster Cereals tended to have a ghoulish slant. In specially marked boxes of Jewish Dracula cereal, kids were given sets of “Real Monster Disguise Stickers,” which were pretty simplistic and yet totally admirable for giving us permission to put stickers all over our faces.

I don’t know how we came upon the subject, but last week, a friend at work was complaining about how none of today’s cereals actually put the premiums inside the cereal bag. They’re always tucked in the box outside the bag, thereby eradicating the gleeful literalness of the “free inside” messaging.

Like palaeontologists excavating the jawbone of a mighty allosaur, digging our hands through edible pebbles in search of prizes was the best part of the breakfast process. Even if the toy completely sucked (and let’s face it, a simple set of facial stickers wasn’t going on anyone’s Christmas wishlist), the thrill of sifting our fingers through twelve ounces of oaty obstacles was enough to make breakfast seem like a day at the fucking circus. I don’t know why cereal companies have ended this tradition, but I assume it has something to do with people not wanting the filthy hands of six-year-olds fondling each and every chocolately morsel in the family cereal box.

Through some miracle, the stickers were still adhesive after all these years. There were three sets available, and since the other two came with stickers representing everything from bloody eyeballs to giant bats, I seem to have received the worst of them. Oh well. There’s at least some small conversational merit in getting eyebrow stickers. I’m happy enough. Mazel tof.


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Discussion Thread: 107 comments

I’ve been trying to find monster cereals and can’t find them anywhere!  Grr!

JLAJRC, that commercial is creepy, but I love the song…but they don’t have it on iTunes!  Double grr!

Ghosted by Teddy Ray @ 10/23/2008 11:16 PM EDT


i wish i could keep a collection of antique cereals too, except i’m still traumatized by that time i opened a year-old box of frosted flakes to find maggots inside. oh, to live in an alternate universe where cereal aged gracefully like wine.

Ghosted by dedalusdedalus @ 10/23/2008 11:28 PM EDT


dedalus: You say the “m” word. Yell

Ghosted by Matt @ 10/23/2008 11:29 PM EDT


starwenn:  I think I remember seeing that Easter special you were refering about, “Bugs Bunny’s Easter Funnies.”  Doesn’t Daffy want to be the Easter Bunny but both Bugs and Granny are against it?  I saw that special years ago and it’s amazing how much I still remember from it.  I think it was one of the few specials were Pepe Le Pew had a little part in the new footage instead of just as a classic cartoon segment.  I guess Pepe wasn’t a popular character and, to be honest, I never really cared much for him as a kid.

Does the segment where Sylvester and Daffy are fighting over a gold egg in the “Daffy’s Egg-Stravaganza” special begin with Ms. Prissy being late to work and Foghorn Leghorn giving her a scolding for being late and she ends up laying a golden egg?  I saw that as a single cartoon on Nickelodeon when they used to show Looney Tunes cartoons.  Anyway, that cartoon must have been made during the Freleng-DePatie era after Warner Brothers closed their Animation Department.  As I’ve said before, I’m a big history buff when it comes to Animation so you can find listening to all the Commentaries on the Looney Tunes Golden Collection DVD sets as well as watch all the old documentaries that are included in those sets.  Okay, not just Looney Tunes but I’ve watched the ones from the Popeye sets and Walt Disney Treasures.  Anyway, the Frelend-DePatie production company was the company who eventually produced the Pink Panther cartoons.  For Looney Tunes, they put some oddball character teams together.  They had one cartoon where Speedy Gonzales and Road Runner were racing each other and they were being pursued by both Wile E. Coyote and Sylvester.  Pretty idiotic, and I think they also produced a Bugs Bunny cartoon where Yosemite Sam is an alien invader and all you can think to yourself while watching it is, “Why can’t it be Marvin the Martian?  Yosemite Sam as a space alien?  Gimme a BREAK!”

Anyway, to be honest, I think I recall seeing the Christmas Carol segment from the Bugs Bunny Christmas Special as a stand-alone cartoon one Saturday while watching the “Bugs Bunny and Tweety show” on ABC.  Oh yeah, and did you know there was also a Bugs Bunny Mother’s Day Special as well?  I have been able to find most of the old specials on videotape such as the Halloween Special, the Thanksgiving Diet special, and even the ones you have mentioned, but I never found the Mother’s Day Special but I do remember recording it years ago and watching it a few times.

Okay, one other point before I close.  Does anybody remember this opening from the last year CBS was showing Looney Tunes on Saturday mornings?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPFhSTyek38
Out of all the years I remember watching Looney Tunes cartoons on Saturday mornings, this was by FAR my favorite opening.  I am so surprised none of the Golden Collection Editions ever added this opening.  They put both versions of the Bugs and Tweety show in one volume but not this one.  I need to download this video because this is how I remember seeing Looney Tunes cartoons as a kid.

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 11:31 PM EDT


Oh man, I have to go and give a history of Halloween story to an elementary school tomorrow afternoon for work. How sad is it that this is my source?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6LgVn4HRpk&feature=related

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/23/2008 11:41 PM EDT


Not a fan of the current “extreme close-up” Count Chocula boxes. Its like those creepy tylenol commercials.

Ghosted by Bob @ 10/23/2008 11:47 PM EDT


Palaeontologists dig allosaurs, Matt. Not archaeologists. ;)

Ghosted by Jordan @ 10/23/2008 11:51 PM EDT


Hi Cheetara:  Sorry but I didn’t read your post until after I last posted mine.  Hmm, that segment sounds it might be from either the special “Bugs Bunny Mystery Special” or “Bugs Bunny Creature Feature.”  To be honest, thee are a few of the Looney Tunes Specials I have not seen, and they actually came out later in the early 1990s, which would mean the voices would have been done by someone other than Mel Blanc if it was all-new footage.  Every voice that is except if Witch Hazel or Granny were in the show in which case, those voices were supplied by the very talented female voice artist June Foray.  I’m guessing whoever did the voice of Bugs and the gang in “Space Jam” must have done the voices here.

Oh, I found out while going through the different Bugs Bunny specials on videotape, they also had a Valentine’s Special.  That one I am not familiar with.  Oh, and I have to give this out as a bit of trivia.  Remember when I was talking about the Sylvester/Daffy cartoon where they fight over a gold egg?  Did you know that it was the same voice Mel Blanc did for both voices because they had similar speech impediments since they slurred their S words.  The only difference was that Daffy’s voice was sped up.  So basically you have the same voice talking to each other only one is a higher pitch than the others.  Of course, wasn’t it that way with all of the characters since Mel pretty much did them all except Elmer Fudd, which was done by Arthur Q. Bryan, and Witch Hazel and Granny which were done by June Foray.  Sorry for the history lesson everyone.  I swear I will try to control my ramblings in future posts.

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 11:51 PM EDT


This was a prank that Wizard Magazine did years ago using the General Mills monsters, but the drawing and idea behind it was so cool I wished it was real.

http://www.pastepotpete.com/?p=440

Ghosted by JLAJRC @ 10/24/2008 12:15 AM EDT


I’ve always wondered why there aren’t more Jewish Cereals. Mensch Puffs died too soon. It had all the shapes: Blue Dreidels, Orangey Stars of David, Lemony Yarmulkas, Green Menorahs, Cherry Moses, and just plain Old Testament.

On another topic that doesn’t involve blasphemous humor based on a religion that isn’t mine, I’d say that both Count Chocoula & Jewish Dracula would belong on our “Lame Monster” poll that we conducted a few weeks ago. :)

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 10/24/2008 12:23 AM EDT


Here’s a LT lesson for ya BJ: Granny was originally voiced by Bea Benederet, who was the voice of Betty Rubble. Also, after Arthur Q. Bryan died, Mel Blanc temporarily took over the Elmer role.

I’m also rather young, I’ve always remembered the Bugs Bunny/Tweety Bird Show on ABC.

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 10/24/2008 12:28 AM EDT


Invader Norbert:  I did know Granny was voiced by another actress before June Foray and I knew her name was Bea something but I couldn’t remember the last name.  I think other actors tried doing the voice of Elmer Fudd as well as Mel Blanc but no one, not even Mel himself could duplicate the wonderful dialogue that Arthur Q. Bryan delivered so well before his death.

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/24/2008 12:44 AM EDT


What bothers me about that box is that the back looks like it is from the 50’s not the 80’s. 

And I wish there was scratch and sniff internet so I could see what these old foods smell like…I think.

Ghosted by kb @ 10/24/2008 12:52 AM EDT


Wow…that Vagina sticker is great…Cunt Chockula anyone?

Ghosted by mandy_dancing skeleton _Reeves @ 10/24/2008 12:55 AM EDT


Yeah, I can’t tell for sure but I think the Dracula motif was how Count Chocula had a “special” Halloween edition.  It definitely feels super vintage.  The Star of David thing wouldn’t have stood out so much if the rest of Dracula wasn’t in faded black and white.

Ghosted by Matt @ 10/24/2008 12:56 AM EDT


Darr, late again!  Damn you newfound love of baseball!

Ghosted by Captain Will @ 10/24/2008 1:07 AM EDT


This blog reminds me of something very important: THEY CHANGED THE DAMN FORMULA FOR HONEYCOMB CEREAL! It used to be so tasty and sugary! Now? It’s just some kind of unsweetened Cheerio type garbage. At least they haven’t taken away my Boo Berry. In fact, I’m chomping on some as I type this. : )

Ghosted by Rover @ 10/24/2008 1:12 AM EDT


The Star of David thing is weird. I think what bothers me most about this box is the typeface for the Count Chocula part. Shouldn’t it be a little less like the bubble letters sixth-grade girls write notes in and more like… jagged or something. I mean, I know people wouldn’t be into drippy blood-looking letters, but puffy, bubbly, I-love-Joey-from-NKOTB-the-BEST! letters? Come on…

I see from Cameron’s picture that they have altered the lettering, and that is some solace, but I still find room for improvement. I don’t like the shading, I think.

Ghosted by Reni @ 10/24/2008 2:37 AM EDT


I totally remember that episode, Cheetara! It’s awesome! I so want to watch it again… And for the count, Count Choc Rocs! :)

Ghosted by LovesGreenKoolAid @ 10/24/2008 5:35 AM EDT


Wow, even before I read this post, I’d had a heaping helping of Count Chocula this very morning.
Halloween will do that to you.
The fact that they’re trumpeting the “REAL” monsters-am I mistaken or was that some kind of line that had come out in the late eighties? I know there was the Real Ghostbusters, and a host of other “real” shows/lines, and my memory, while scotch soaked, is that there may have been such a thing.

Ghosted by Pepe @ 10/24/2008 6:04 AM EDT


You know, they changed all these cereal formulas to make them healthier but kids are still fatter than ever.  They may as well go back to the original recipes if that’s going to be the case.

Ghosted by Clockwork @ 10/24/2008 8:07 AM EDT


–>> ..aye meshuge makh’n ,yummy mummy..

..>V<

Ghosted by tOkKa @ 10/24/2008 8:07 AM EDT


all you people with you convienient Monsters cereal …errrrr , i am soo very jealous

Ghosted by Starscream77 @ 10/24/2008 8:15 AM EDT


i think i have had boo-berry everday for breakfast this past week.  probably continue the fad next…after all next week is what we have been waiting for since nov. 1st of 2007

Ghosted by nosna @ 10/24/2008 9:41 AM EDT


I actually had my first bowl of Count Chocula in about 2 years this morning. It was marvelous. This is also my first post since I tragically lost internet acces midway through the July Megaparty. Had my little girl during my internet absense though, so it wasn’t all misery. Not to brag, but she’s the most awesome baby in the universe.

Ghosted by earthwormgoddess @ 10/24/2008 9:42 AM EDT


Pete, the man responsible for putting a kicking Joker into my hands, says they don’t put the toys in the cereal anymore because the plastic wrap around the prize was chemically tainting the food.  He gave me Premiums 101 the other day, it was fascinating.

Ghosted by Whatever @ 10/24/2008 9:56 AM EDT


Man, that “revamped” thing had me cracking up.

Ghosted by jhnnywalkr @ 10/24/2008 10:28 AM EDT


This would’ve been a little more effective on Yom Kippur earlier this month.

Also, that Jack in the Box commercial has gotten a little annoying.

Ghosted by Hazard @ 10/24/2008 11:39 AM EDT


Old Count Chocula asks my permission to do stuff.

Ghosted by stinkbutt @ 10/24/2008 12:07 PM EDT


LovesGreenKoolAid: Hooray, it wasn’t all in my deranged imagination!

JLAJRC: Whoa, that artwork is cool as hell. I’m amazed that someone managed to make cereal monsters look bad-ass.

Ghosted by Cheetara @ 10/24/2008 1:06 PM EDT


Cheetara, the episode you’re thinking of is called “Invasion of the Bunny Snatchers”. I remember that episode being very awesome as well…
This is the Wiki on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_the_Bunny_Snatchers

Unfortunately it’s not on YT :(

Ghosted by Kitsunexus @ 10/24/2008 1:40 PM EDT


Man, I have some odd Looney Tune memory of Daffy Duck drinking some potion and it turned him into a flower thing with a golf flag coming out of his ass. Like Cheetara, that might be the product of some college fun, but I’m not sure.

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/24/2008 2:28 PM EDT


this isn’t necessarily related but I seem to recall a TMNT poster that was recalled because there was a swastika blended in with the graffiti in the background or something like that?  Does anyone else remember this from back in the day?

Ghosted by phunqsauce @ 10/24/2008 2:34 PM EDT


Bill: That sounds like it’s from the famous (and my favorite) cartoon “Duck Amuck” to me.

Ghosted by JLAJRC @ 10/24/2008 2:35 PM EDT


The depiction of the cereal monsters as badass reminded me of this comic.

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/poyorick/botg/series.php?view=archive&chapter=10960

Ghosted by TB Tabby @ 10/24/2008 2:57 PM EDT


Duck Amuck, eh? Awesome. Glad to know it wasn’t the brownies.

AMC is kicking off the horror fest with Halloween tonight! Weee!

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/24/2008 3:04 PM EDT


Pepe, I believe you are thinking of Ahhh! Real Monsters.  I think it was on Nickelodeon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq83yrq7et0

Ghosted by Rhino @ 10/24/2008 3:31 PM EDT


Forget Edward Cullen from Twilight, Count Chocula is my homeboy. I used to have the front side of a 90s Chocula box hanging on my bedroom wall for many years.

Ghosted by palmerholic @ 10/24/2008 3:38 PM EDT


Whoo!  We’re exactly one week away from the big day! CONFETTI!

Any one gonna see Saw5? I’m not.

Ghosted by Hazard @ 10/24/2008 3:40 PM EDT


Fruit Brute and Yummy Mummy were my favs!  Anyone agree?

Ghosted by Ricky @ 10/24/2008 3:50 PM EDT


I think I have mentioned it before.  I do not care for the taste of the new Count Chocula..at all.  but if you want a truer (not completely) form of what Count Chocula used to taste like grab a box of the Chocolate Lucky Charms.  It even turns the milk to chocolate milk.  Good stuff

Ghosted by Wenthral @ 10/24/2008 4:33 PM EDT


Whaaaaaaaaa?!They don’t put prizes in the boxes anymore??I’ll kill em, kill em all!

Ghosted by Bloodmist @ 10/24/2008 4:49 PM EDT


Kitsunexus: Thanks for the link. Now I’m dying to see it again! I remember it being considerably more creepy than usual Looney Tunes faire… perhaps that is why it stands out in my mind.

Bill: Daffy doesn’t drink anything to morph into the flower-headed creature; it’s the artist (Bugs, as ending reveals) drawing him into different situations/costumes.

Ghosted by Cheetara @ 10/24/2008 5:49 PM EDT


billy: i can always count on you to tell me what’s on tonight. thanks doll.

Ghosted by Amy @ 10/24/2008 6:36 PM EDT


Matt: I am always amazed at the things you have saved over the years. That’s what makes this website the best… we don’t just get to see a scanned picture of what the box looked like back then but we get to see what the cereal looks like today… you are my hero for holding on to this stuff for this long.
BTW, I could sure use another contest to work on. I don’t know about everyone else but even if there were no prizes just showing off what everyone did would be fine by me. The last 2 contests had some pretty creative submissions and everyone seemed excited to do them. Just a thought.   :-)

Ghosted by slick316 @ 10/24/2008 6:39 PM EDT


CW 11 is bringing back chiller theater I think this weekend ? Matt…would you happen to know the exact date?  I keep seeing commercials with the hand coming out of the ground and the chiller theater logo in blood

Ghosted by mandy_dancing skeleton _Reeves @ 10/24/2008 6:46 PM EDT


JLAJRC, that fake monster cereal comic book art is awesome!  I’ve got that issue of Wizard somewhere and I knew it was an April’s Fool joke when I first saw it, but I thought, “That would be so cool if it was real!”

Ghosted by Teddy Ray @ 10/24/2008 7:26 PM EDT


Hey hey, hi hi peoples. Love ya~

Ghosted by Neg @ 10/24/2008 7:42 PM EDT


we love Neg too!

Ghosted by phunqsauce @ 10/24/2008 9:28 PM EDT


Yay for Neg-a-tron!
Well, rest assured that 300 K-5 kids in North Idaho know the history of Halloween, thanks to the Dep. of Land and Wildfire Aviation. I thought for sure the would eat me.

Thanks Cheetara. I think I saw a Looney Tune Halloween special that included a number of oddly linked clips that had Daffy drinking a potion. Strange.

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/24/2008 9:33 PM EDT


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