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10/23/2008: Halloween Countdown ‘08: Old Count Chocula.

Today’s topic: Old Count Chocula. Hold your applause.

In 1987, General Mills faced public backlash upon releasing the revamped (ah ah ah) Count Chocula box design seen above. What at first glance seems only to be a whimsical pairing of Chocula and Dracula unveils a more sinister truth if you look hard enough. Apparently, Count Dracula was Jewish.

Yes, Dracula’s medallion, which I’ve seen realized in symbols ranging from X-shaped crosses to metal skulls, took on the unmistakable form of the Star of David. To be fair, I’ve seen Dracula’s medallion in this shape before, but for whatever reason, it just seems so much more Jewishy here. I’m not sure why people were in such an uproar over the suggestion that Dracula was Jewish; I know I’d be pretty elated if I found out he was Catholic.

Many people complained about Dracula’s newfound faith, and General Mills felt compelled to redesign the box. Bah. The kind of people who complained about what Dracula’s necklace looked like were not the kind of people who’d buy their kids Count Chocula cereal anyway. General Mills should’ve rebutted by adding a bindi to Franken Berry’s forehead.

I’m usually surprised by how well my collection of antique cereal holds up, but that isn’t the case here. The cereal smells really, really bad — akin to a pair of damp socks rotated over the feet of Earth’s 50 most disgusting men. The old school Count Chocula paw-shaped marshmallows have either disintegrated or simply fossilized to the point where they’re indiscernible from the more numerous frosted ghost oats.

Part of the reason for Count Chocula’s rancidity is that the cereal was forged from far more hardcore ingredients in 1987 than it is today. The second most prominent ingredient was sugar — and not some wacky sugar substitute with an eighteen-syllable name, either…REAL sugar. Real sugar is awesome, but when it goes bad, it means it. Almost every sugary marshmallowy kiddy cereal has seen its recipe changed for the healthier over the years. Count Chocula still tastes good today, but in 1987, it could be bartered for baseball cards and handheld assault weapons on the black market.

The General Mills “Monster Cereals” debuted during a time when the classic Universal Monsters were the focus of virtually every small boy’s imagination. That long-lived fad was in a coma by the time I was growing up, so it was nice to see something so consistently horrific — even if it was just breakfast.

Even the freebies that came with the Monster Cereals tended to have a ghoulish slant. In specially marked boxes of Jewish Dracula cereal, kids were given sets of “Real Monster Disguise Stickers,” which were pretty simplistic and yet totally admirable for giving us permission to put stickers all over our faces.

I don’t know how we came upon the subject, but last week, a friend at work was complaining about how none of today’s cereals actually put the premiums inside the cereal bag. They’re always tucked in the box outside the bag, thereby eradicating the gleeful literalness of the “free inside” messaging.

Like palaeontologists excavating the jawbone of a mighty allosaur, digging our hands through edible pebbles in search of prizes was the best part of the breakfast process. Even if the toy completely sucked (and let’s face it, a simple set of facial stickers wasn’t going on anyone’s Christmas wishlist), the thrill of sifting our fingers through twelve ounces of oaty obstacles was enough to make breakfast seem like a day at the fucking circus. I don’t know why cereal companies have ended this tradition, but I assume it has something to do with people not wanting the filthy hands of six-year-olds fondling each and every chocolately morsel in the family cereal box.

Through some miracle, the stickers were still adhesive after all these years. There were three sets available, and since the other two came with stickers representing everything from bloody eyeballs to giant bats, I seem to have received the worst of them. Oh well. There’s at least some small conversational merit in getting eyebrow stickers. I’m happy enough. Mazel tof.


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Discussion Thread: 107 comments

FIRST!!!! Okay, I’m not going to say anything because I know I’ll lose my position,

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 6:51 PM EDT


Gah! lol!   

   That is one sweet box of old cereal!  You really broke out the good stuff this year for the Halloween count down Matt!

Ghosted by crazy_mainer @ 10/23/2008 6:52 PM EDT


I spotted a Count Chocula shirt in what I call the “brand name products” part of a Steve and Barry’s store. They sell cool shirts like that there.

I just found out about this commercial. Am I the only one who finds it more creepy than funny/charming?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEpfTicDVUE

Ghosted by JLAJRC @ 10/23/2008 6:54 PM EDT


That is the most wonderful cereal box in the world. I wish they had kept it!

Ghosted by podkayne @ 10/23/2008 6:58 PM EDT


I haven’t seen a box of Count Chocula in years. However, I tasted both Boo Berry and Franken Berry for the first time in my life within the past two weeks. That was a poorly written sentence.

Ghosted by mezzanine @ 10/23/2008 7:00 PM EDT


Okay, now that the thrill is over, I can continue with my rambling.  First, I want to re-post the Ariana Richards website link:

http://www.ariana.org/

There we go!  Now seriously, I must be the only one who thinks she’s a cutie.  I guess I just have different tastes than others.  I don’t know,  I look at her again and I still think she’s a cutie.  I must have weird tastes!

Anyway, on another topic about Halloween but not related to the blog, I recently picked up an old copy of “Bugs Bunny Hollo-ween Special.”  I don’t know if many of you remember some of the old Bugs Bunny specials they used to run on CBS in the 1970s and 1980s.  They would take old Looney Tunes cartoons and splice them together with new footage.  Apparently the animators at Warner Brothers thought people were too dumb in the ’70s and 80s to realize the difference between the classic cartoon footage and the new footage they animated.  You can really tell on these specials because the voices of the characters change slightly and the animation is differently styled.  Anyway, in most of the specials, or even movies, the classic footage would be separate from the new footage and the new footage was more or less bridges between the old cartoons.  Anyway, in this one, not only did they constantly switch back and forth between the two animated styles, they even spliced together footage from more than one cartoon.  For example, there’s that classic Sylvester and Tweety cartoon where Tweety falls into a potion bottle and turns into a monster, or a Hyde-like character to be more precise.  Anyway, they spliced that together with a Bugs Bunny cartoon in which he also runs into a Dr. Jeykll character who changes into a Mr. Hyde monster.  Well, they would go from one scene with the Bugs Bunny cartoon and show Sylvester sleeping out on the ledge and then back to Bugs and even put in a second or two of new footage and they were trying to get us to buy that it was all continuous and happening at the same time.  That’s just one example and of course they did this on ALL the Bugs Bunny Specials they used to run including the popular Thanksgiving special, “Bugs Bunny’s Thanksgiving Diet.”  The only special I can recall to ever have all-new footage was the Christmas Special “Bugs Bunny’s Looney Christmas Tales.”  I know this because the special was on the Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 5 and I pulled that out to get the title.

Overall, I’d say the special is average.  If you’re someone like me who spots when they cut between the different footage, it can get pretty annoying but it’s a decent story.  Supposedly here it is Witch Hazel who owns the spooky hotel Porky and Sylvester sign in as guests for the night instead of just a spooky inn in some ghost town.

Actually, if there was a good Looney Tunes movie/TV Special I would recommend for Halloween, it would be “Daffy Duck’s Quackbusters.”  That special came out in 1988 and it also contains the Tweety/Sylvester cartoon, “Hyde and Go Tweet” as well as the Porky and Sylvester cartoon with the haunted house.  It seems the “Hyde and Tweet” cartoon has been in EVERY Looney Tunes special.  I think this was also the last Warner Brothers project Mel Blanc performed the voices before he passed away.  I beleive “Who Framed Roger Rabbit?” was the last project he ever did.  I could be wrong about this so don’t take my word for it.

Okay, I rambled on again.  I’m sorry, but I just needed to get all that out!  Okay, I’ll get you re-focused again.  “Jewish Count Dracula!  Jewish Count Dracula…..Ariana Richards is a cutie!  Ariana Richards is a cutie!”  There, you’re back on course now.  Post away!

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 7:14 PM EDT


The only toy in the cereal box I used to get jazzed over was the submarine that you put baking soda in to submerge and surface.

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/23/2008 7:15 PM EDT


i rarely find or see any cereal with premiums inside, around, or near a cereal box anymore… its all mail order or online crap. i miss toys *IN* the box… thats how i would choose which brand or flavor i wanted that week.  So now whenever i see a box that actually offers something in the box (like those dark knight toys), i grab it up. whatever happened to the cereal prize project matt? that was my favorite…

Ghosted by dave @ 10/23/2008 7:16 PM EDT


8th! my favorite cereal toys were the little plastic robots that swam around in the bath… you got to assemble them and everything!

Ghosted by TOmmy! @ 10/23/2008 7:18 PM EDT


JLAJRC: I’ve seen that commercial enough times on TV, it’s making me sick! Actually no, there’s a Jack In The Box commercial for their pita snacks that has two guys in a stroller who are crying because they have nothing to snack on. That one’s just downright annoying! Yeah, your commercial is a little creepy, though I do like watching all those babes from the gym look out the window! Okay, I’ve said enough of that.

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 7:22 PM EDT


Sorry for the double but I am still trying to wrap my head around the Jewish Dracula thing. If you think about it, the only people who would be in peril would be those blessed by a Rabbi. You know…the whole kosher thing?

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/23/2008 7:22 PM EDT


Bill, i believe my aforementioned plastic robots ran on baking soda as well… did anyone else ever get these?

Ghosted by TOmmy! @ 10/23/2008 7:24 PM EDT


Hah! BJ, that reminds me of one of my favorite Looney Tunes, “Devil’s Feud Cake”/”Satan’s Waitin’” You could definitely tell where the new footage started, and there weren’t even a good 10 years between the two. (I don’t remember which came first.)

The 70s specials were kinda bad–I mean, even if a damn 3 year old can spot the difference “Why does Bugs sound different?”, older kids (and adults) watching were probably shaking their heads in wonder. (Or smoking weed, or disco dancing….apparently that’s all folks did in the 70s. Too bad I can’t remember ANY of that decade…. )

Ghosted by kindersczenen @ 10/23/2008 7:25 PM EDT


am i the only one who looked at matts picture of the stickers while still in the cereal bag and thought that the center sticker looked like a gaping vagina?

Ghosted by Leigha @ 10/23/2008 7:25 PM EDT


I can’t believe I have NEVER eaten any from this line of cereals. I feel inspired now and I have to go to the supermarket tonight.

Ghosted by Mama's Boy @ 10/23/2008 7:27 PM EDT


Leigha: I don’t know if I’d call it gaping, but yes.

Ghosted by Matt @ 10/23/2008 7:28 PM EDT


Also am I wrong for thinking that

“What at first glance seems only to be a whimsical pairing of Chocula and Dracula unveils a more sinister truth if you look hard enough.”

meant it looks like Dracula is raping Count Chocula?

Ghosted by Mama's Boy @ 10/23/2008 7:30 PM EDT


Mama’s Boy… i dont know what kind of vaginas you’ve been looking at… but you need to find some different ladies to hang out with…

Ghosted by TOmmy! @ 10/23/2008 7:32 PM EDT


TOmmy. Yeah, baking soda was the driving power behind cereal toys back then. That led to a love/hate relationship for me. I loved baking soda for the sub fuel but hated it because the folks forced me to brush my teeth with the stuff. Lots of tears and dry heaves.

Ghosted by Bill @ 10/23/2008 7:33 PM EDT


Mama’s Boy if i can say gaping vagina, i suppose dracula on chocula action is an acceptable conclusion

Ghosted by Leigha @ 10/23/2008 7:33 PM EDT


sorry mama’s boy… i meant to address that to Leigha… sorry again…

Ghosted by TOmmy! @ 10/23/2008 7:33 PM EDT


i said GAPING vagina, if it were a normal one then there would be a problem, and it would need medical assistance.  i think im done with my vaginal rant

Ghosted by Leigha @ 10/23/2008 7:34 PM EDT


I miss the premiums in the cereal. My brother, sister, and I used to argue over them. So we would wait to see who poured the prize into their bowl and got to keep it. The last one that I won was a rubber sticky hand you could fling at stuff. I quickly unwrapped it and flung it across the breakfast table, where the hand latched to my Dad’s orange juice. The juice went all over the table, soaking the newspaper. I never saw that sticky hand again.

Ghosted by Bob @ 10/23/2008 7:36 PM EDT


Vlad the Impaler is a Christian saint. I always remember the Dracula meddalion as a golden sunburst.

Ghosted by Mortalwind @ 10/23/2008 7:37 PM EDT


I wake up each morning to Fruit Brute and Yummy Mummy staring at me through their picture frames.  They may still look happy on the boxes after all these years, but I can see through the ruse.  There is a hint of pain in their eyes.  There needs to be a full Monster Cereal reunion.

BTW I bought some Booberry the other day and there is only like 9 oz in the box now.  What gives?

Ghosted by Jack @ 10/23/2008 7:37 PM EDT


Looking at that box, I just realized something: it is nearly impossible to look scary while wearing a sombrero. 

Ghosted by Hoverbored @ 10/23/2008 7:44 PM EDT


Am I the only one who hates chocolate cereals? I hope not. Everytime I see Count Chocula I want to puke.
Also, I accidentally stumbled upon a picture of this year’s full Playmobil Advent Calendar toys. :( My sister sent me a link to it from urban outfitters. Matt, I hope you don’t spend as much as they’re asking for it every year.

Ghosted by Denise @ 10/23/2008 7:47 PM EDT


 kindersczenen: Did you also notice how sometimes they’d have the old footage but they put in new voice recordings?  In that Bugs Bunny Halloween special I mentioned, they had that special where Bugs goes to Trannsylvania and goes into that haunted house where a vampire lives (Bugs mistakes a couple bats for mosquitoes in case you aren’t familiar with it yet), and by the way, that cartoon is ALSO in the Daffy Duck “Quackbusters” movie ( I think every cartoon in that special was in the movie) and thanks to Bugs finding a magic book with magic spells, every time he says “Abracaddabra” or “Hocus Pocus” the vampire changes from a bat (Abracaddabra) and back to a vampire (Hocus Pocus) (that should have given away the cartoon and not the earlier bit I mentioned).  Anyway, they re-recorded all the vampire’s dialogue with that of June Foray’s Witch Hazel voice because according to the new footage, Witch Hazel drank some potion and turned into a vampire.  Anyway, they cut from the vampire changing into a bat and falling into a crack on the floor in which case Witch Hazel says “Hocus Pocus.”  This is during bit where in the original cartoon, the vampire and Bugs do a bit where the vampire says, “Hocus Pocus I’m a vampire” to Bugs saying, “Abracaddabra, I’m an umpire.”  Well, in the special, they cut from Bugs not wearing anything to the next shot being of him wearing the umpire’s uniform and yet he never said the line.  Now tell me no one would catch something like that, and if you’re like me and seen the original cartoons dozens of times, it’s IMPOSSIBLE not to notice the difference!

Oh, one final note I gotta make on all this.  At the end of the episode they show the cartoon where Witch Hazel turns into a girl bunny and she and Bugs end up walking with arms around each other.  In the original cartoon, Witch Hazel as girl bunny does her laugh and Bugs looks back at the camera and says, “Yeah I know, but aren’t all girls witches…” or something to that extent.  In this special, after she does her laugh, Bugs says to the camera, “Yeah I know, but who wants to be alone on Halloween?”  Okay, not only is that not funny dialogue, but shouldn’t that be an ending for a Valentine’s Day special and not Halloween, especially with a big heart showing in the background?  Oh yeah, and then they add a little bit at the end that’s very brief but yet totally kills the whole special!  It’s so bad, I’m not going to describe it because I’m trying to forget it!

Man, I should become an Historian after I get out of the Army.  A Historian not only in baseball or sports in general or Chicago History, but Animation History as well.  Well, that and Film.  I’ll give Leonard Maltin a run for his money!  He needs to retire anyway!

Ghosted by BJ @ 10/23/2008 7:48 PM EDT


I agree with podkayne. Though Chocula’s great I have such an undying love for Dracula.

Ghosted by Lucky Mesmer @ 10/23/2008 7:52 PM EDT


i was always partial to Boo Berry, myself.. but i’d wager after a couple Halloween-y Caramel Apple martinis i’d take a bite of this retched, decaying cereal gift of the Gods..

Ghosted by Review the World @ 10/23/2008 8:01 PM EDT


Do you think that this box of cereal could have fetched some real dollars somewhere, since it was banned and everything? Pretty cool story.

Ghosted by Muppet Baby @ 10/23/2008 8:17 PM EDT


I never really liked Count Chocula.  I’ve always been more of a Frakenberries/Boo Berry type of gal.  But GREAT old box and love the eye brows…

Ghosted by gingela5 @ 10/23/2008 8:30 PM EDT


this makes me long for some Monsters cereal . No one carries it ..i am sad. BJ’s carried the Monsters 3 pack last halloween but it is no where to be seen .

as for the star necklace Lugosi wore that many times as Dracula , i guess the same folk who complain about the box curse him in his grave too

Ghosted by Starscream77 @ 10/23/2008 8:38 PM EDT


less like a gaping vagina and more like what’s going on underneath my ace bandage. nasty.

the only place i ever see any of these three cereals is at aldi’s, and theirs is probably expired.

Ghosted by Amy @ 10/23/2008 8:44 PM EDT


I don’t really ever share stories here since I’m not a regular poster, but I have to say, this box may explain something from my childhood.

Once, around age four, when staying with my grandmother for a week, she pulled out a box of Count Chocula and said “Here you go! It’s that Count Dracula cereal you kids like so much!” I remember being horrified, and avoided Chocula for years, as at the time I was terrified of Dracula and all things vampire.

Ghosted by podkayne @ 10/23/2008 8:57 PM EDT


Jewish cereal always tastes stale to me.

Ghosted by YoungDumbandUncreative @ 10/23/2008 9:05 PM EDT


I always thought those were bats, not paws…

Ghosted by Sarah @ 10/23/2008 9:06 PM EDT


Funny how nobody seems to be able to find Count Chocula; I see it in Wal-Marts around here all the time.  I need to get me some.

Ghosted by Annette @ 10/23/2008 9:31 PM EDT


LOL a vagina with eyebrows!  Damn you Leigha!  That shit is too fuckin funny!

Ghosted by phunqsauce @ 10/23/2008 9:53 PM EDT


I have never had Count Cocula. It think I’m missing out. Although, I don’t know if I can make the switch from crack-coated-changes-your-milk-to-heroin-Reese’s Puffs. It’s just too good.

And if the combined comments of Leigha and phunqsauce are to be taken together, then what are the bolts for? 

Ghosted by PlantMonster @ 10/23/2008 10:08 PM EDT


Leigha- “vaginal rant”   Sounds like a Death metal band or something, LOL !!  

Ghosted by Sharkagator @ 10/23/2008 10:19 PM EDT


PlantMonster:  oh you know those kids these days with their bolted taints….i mean every vagina with eyebrows isn’t complete without the bolted taint

Ghosted by phunqsauce @ 10/23/2008 10:28 PM EDT


Is it just me or does Count Chocula look like he’s busying himself with household chores trying to avoid the fact that his idol, Dracula, turned out to be Jewish, like the moment a mother figures out his son won’t be producing any grandchildren, if ya know what I mean.

Ghosted by Jeff Mack @ 10/23/2008 10:41 PM EDT


HER son*

Ghosted by Jeff Mack @ 10/23/2008 10:44 PM EDT


That box definitely looks like Dracula is planning on buggering Chocula with the candlestick. :|

…also I’ve never had any of the cereals in that line. I work at Shoprite and we sell them there…I should buy some… *blink*

Ghosted by Spiffy @ 10/23/2008 10:54 PM EDT


BJ, first of all, thanks for confirming the existence of a Looney Tunes Halloween special. I have two Looney Tunes Easter specials and the Christmas special you mentioned on VHS. Bugs Bunny’s Easter Funnies is the same thing as the Halloween special, a thin story made to wrap around segments from several well-known Looney Tunes. (Unlike the Halloween special, which sounds like it made some pretenses of finding spooky cartoons that fit the holiday mood, none of the segments used in Easter Funnies have the slightest thing to do with Easter, or even springtime.)

Daffy Duck’s Easter Egg-Stravaganza, however, is more like Christmas Tales, three new, springtime/Easter themed cartoons with a random, Duck Amuck-like wrap around segment. There’s no story per se; Daffy’s trying to host a springtime holiday spectacular, and the artist (and three new shorts) get in the way. Of the three new cartoons, my favorite has Sylvester and Daffy pursuing a gold egg.

Annette, I work in a grocery store and see all three Monster cereals all the time too. I won’t be eating them, though. I’m not a big fan of chocolate cereals (the milk always tastes funny afterwards) or of marshmallow cereals…or of really sugary cereals in general. Even with less sugar than they used to have, they’re still too sweet for me.

That box art’s awesome, though. I wish I remember it.

Ghosted by starwenn @ 10/23/2008 10:57 PM EDT


Boo Berry was the best, Franken Berry was always second rate and Count Chocu-blah was last.  Want a good Chocolate cereal? Stick to cocoa puffs or chocolate rice krispies.  I should pick up some Boo Bery next time im at Target. Last time I was at target I picked up box of Quisp. Box was expensive too but it was really good!  I was scared to buy a cereal called “King Vitamin” sounds like, and looks like a cartoon character that might have been in Captain Planet.

Ghosted by Turtle Lovin Zombie Boy @ 10/23/2008 10:59 PM EDT


What? Count Dracula’s Jewish?

Ghosted by Lucas @ 10/23/2008 11:00 PM EDT


BJ: On the subject of Looney Tunes, do you remember a Bugs Bunny cartoon that I think was supposed to be a parody of Invasion of the Body Snatchers? The pods that people hatched from were giant carrots… or maybe I just smoked too much green in college and made this up in my head.

Ghosted by Cheetara @ 10/23/2008 11:06 PM EDT


Click my name for proof that Count Chocula exists this year.  If only in small quantities.

Ghosted by Cameron T. @ 10/23/2008 11:12 PM EDT


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