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02/25/2008: Three Men and a Ghost.

I don’t protest that I’m merely the last of 560,000 websites to discuss the fabled Three Men and a Baby ghost, but I can’t help myself. When news of this seeming specter poured into newscasts in 1990, my friends and I took it as proof positive that ghosts completely and totally existed.

Retelling the story is an almost needless formality, because everyone already knows it. Everyone…except frequent comment-leaver and mother-of-one, “kb.” It’s kb’s fault that I get to tell the story with a clear conscience.

Millions around the world bore witness to the exploits of Ted Danson and the other two guys as they found themselves in the utterly hysterical position of raising an abandoned baby girl. What most moviegoers somehow missed was an otherwise forgettable scene where, if you look close, monsters will eat you:


As Three Men and a Baby moved to television airings and tape rentals, the world turned its eyes to the peculiar boy arrow-marked in the photo above. Neither an actor nor something seemingly of this world, the boy stood motionless, looking somewhere between stoic and fuzzy, as Danson and The Woman Portraying Danson’s Mom acted their parts completely oblivious to the walking dead among them. It was impossible to imagine that this ghost-laden scene made it in the can without ever being caught by a member of the crew, and when things sound impossible, they can only be the doings of SUPERNATURAL POWERS.

There was a perfectly acceptable explanation for everything, but I’ll get to that in a minute. As the story went, this horrible THING was in fact the ghost of a boy who, depending on which version of the story was told, died on the set, died in the house that the movie was shot in, died via shotgun blast, or died via forcibly injected foreign antibodies that refused to live up to their name. The ghoul wasn’t making its presence known for revenge or anything; evidently, the boy just wanted his fifteen minutes, however postmortem.

If you watch the scene with the mindset that it could possibly maybe be a real ghost, it’s dang creepy. I was all of ten or eleven years of age when the story broke, and soon after, one of the major networks gave Three Men and a Baby its first television airing. I watched the film and waited for that scene with a stomach full of pretty moths, and when I finally caught my first glimpse of the poor dead boy, it wasn’t a minute later that every light in our house was on and I was wrapped firmly in whatever sufficed as a security blanket back then. I was absolutely floored. A ghost! A real, live ghost on display for the world to see!

All of my friends were similarly impressed, and in a world full of so many debatably great things, I think this marked the only time that everyone seemed to agree that something was awesome. After watching so many “real” ghost stories on television where the only visual evidence consisted of pictures of orbs or sketches by the same guys who did concept art for Spaced Invaders, finally, we had our smoking gun.

Only, we didn’t. In truth, the ghost was merely a life-sized cardboard standee of Ted Danson — a leftover prop from one of the commercials his character starred in. Cut scenes from the film revealed that the standee was actually a running gag, so the fact that it was in plain sight during a scene that actually made it into the movie is sloppy, but hardly suspect. I found this news appalling, not because I didn’t believe it, but because it meant that I no longer had a valid reason to watch Three Men and a Baby anymore. I came for the ghost, but secretly, I delighted in the acerbity and heartfelt moments. I understand that acerbity isn’t a truly fitting description, but I just found out that it’s an actual word and I just had to use it right here and now. “Acerbity.” Sounds like a newly discovered planet, or one of the many animal pilots in Starfox’s death squad.

I don’t think I’ve ever come closer to really believing in ghosts as I did when I thought a cardboard Ten Danson was one of them. The universe seemed bigger, then.


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Discussion Thread: 235 comments

I really want to learn filmmaking techniques, just to do viral stuff and ‘accidental’ inclusions in films.

That and property design, I’ve been playing SimTower and have a great idea for a twenty storey hotel, but the largest building in my town is only about nine.

I’d actually turn the thirteenth floor in to an entire ‘haunted house’ thing with a kids version and adults, with a cinema in each version. The Scissorman and Old Man Stubbyfingers would be there.

It’s probably a good thing I’m not mega-rich, huh?

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/27/2008 1:18 PM EST


To Guise: Hey, I’d go there, if it existed.

Sounds fun! :)

Ghosted by Tetsu Deinonychus @ 02/27/2008 1:52 PM EST


Guise that just means you have to re-locate to the States when you come into your millions and throw one hell of an opening night party for all of your X-E friends! ;)

Ghosted by Dan @ 02/27/2008 2:12 PM EST


For BelmarBenny http://www.jgeoff.com/godfather/ghostly_image.html

Ghosted by Patio @ 02/27/2008 2:21 PM EST


If I could choose any apparition to be haunted by, I’d have to go with the ghost of ted danson.

Ghosted by penmissile @ 02/27/2008 2:55 PM EST


squee4242:

RE: The Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz thing…

I have no idea if it is true or not. It is very interesting, but I’ve never heard the band confirm or deny it. Perhaps I worded it too strongly earlier when I implied that it wasn’t true.

penmissile:

You’d like to be haunted by the ghost of Ted Danson, eh? I don’t know about that — it didn’t work out too well for Leslie Nielsen in Creepshow.

Ghosted by Magic Toy @ 02/27/2008 3:35 PM EST


I suppose with all this ghostly talk I could include that I live just outside what is said to be the most haunted small town in the country: Alton, Illinois. Lots of stupid little ghost stories abound, and there’s even a Haunted Alton book telling of a lot of places that you can go trespass and get yourself arrested at.

Used to go “ghost hunting” with my friends back in the day, but that finally just fell through at some point. Shame, because it was fun. I have a few stories, none of which I’ll recount here, but the link down there should provide you all with some of the local flavor. If you can navigate around the thousands of plugs for Taylor’s books, of course.

On the subject of the cardboard cutout ghost: though I’ve never seen the movie, I’ve read about this particular myth at length on snopes. Great site, but it just takes the fun out of stuff sometimes.

Ghosted by Amund @ 02/27/2008 3:40 PM EST


Amund
That’s weird I didn’t know Alton was supposed to be so haunted! I lived in that area for 8 years and never heard about it!

Ghosted by Dan @ 02/27/2008 4:26 PM EST


I bet the post production team had some giggles when they heard the rumor about there being a ghost on the set.:)

Ghosted by Supermarioman @ 02/27/2008 4:58 PM EST


Amund:

I meant to mention this earlier, but welcome!

Also I grew up in central Illinois and dated a girl who lived in O’Fallon for a couple of years, so I know your area well. One of my best friends also still lives in that area. I never knew that Alton was supposedly so haunted, I’ll have to read up about it.

When mentioning Alton, IL you also have to make note of Alton’s most famous son, Robert Wadlow, aka ‘The Alton Giant.’

Ghosted by Magic Toy @ 02/27/2008 4:58 PM EST


Three Men and a Goat?

Ghosted by kingklash @ 02/27/2008 6:31 PM EST


Magic Toy:

Of course, who could ever forget about Robert Wadlow? I think I have a picture of my brother standing next to the statue saved somewhere.

Ghosted by Amund @ 02/27/2008 6:45 PM EST


Magic Toy,

Per Wikipedia:

“Pink Floyd band members have repeatedly insisted that the reputed phenomenon is coincidence. In an interview for the 25th anniversary of the album, guitarist/vocalist David Gilmour denied that the album was intentionally written to be synchronized with Oz, saying “Some guy with too much time on his hands had this idea with combining Wizard of Oz with Dark Side of the Moon.”[7]

On an MTV special about Pink Floyd in 2002, the band dismissed any relationship between the album and the movie, saying that there were no means of reproducing the film in the studio at the time they recorded the album.

In a 2003 interview with Rolling Stone Magazine, Dark Side of the Moon engineer Alan Parsons said of the supposed effect:

“It was an American radio guy who pointed it out to me. It’s such a non-starter, a complete load of eyewash. I tried it for the first time about two years ago. One of my fiancee’s kids had a copy of the video, and I thought I had see what it was all about. I was very disappointed. The only thing I noticed was that the line “balanced on the biggest wave” came up when Dorothy was kind of tightrope walking along a fence. One of the things any audio professional will tell you is that the scope for the drift between the video and the record is enormous; it could be anything up to twenty seconds by the time the record’s finished. And anyway, if you play any record with the sound turned down on the TV, you will find things that work.”[8]

On March 3, 2006 at the Canadian Music Week conference in Toronto, Alan Parsons, the album’s recording engineer, told an audience during a question-and-answer session that there had been no effort to integrate the album with the film.”

Ghosted by Rich @ 02/27/2008 6:51 PM EST


How do you get people’s names in the text to show up in bold?

Ghosted by Rich @ 02/27/2008 6:52 PM EST


Parsons brings up a good point. The case of the Dark Side of the Oz might be what skeptics charge about the Bible Code. The criticism of the Bible Code is that you can take any book as big a Bible, put a random algorithm in, and get “codes.”

Ghosted by Rich @ 02/27/2008 6:57 PM EST


Rich, ha ha! See, I can do it! Type the name like this insert name here but without the spaces in the b parts.

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 7:12 PM EST


Damn it! Ok, let me try it with something beside spaces… insert name here Just take out the star/pound thingies.

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 7:14 PM EST


Rich…<b> insert name here </b>

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/27/2008 7:15 PM EST


Fuck. Ok, you know the greater than, less than symbols? You type a less than, followed by a b, follwed by a greater than, followed by the text that you want bolded, followed by a less than, followed by a slash, followed by a b and then a greater than.

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 7:17 PM EST


What Guise said. :’(

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 7:18 PM EST


Darth, I was going to say “What DP means is…”, but my mind is unhinged today and I couldn’t bring myself to use DP.

Now I have…I feel dirty.

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/27/2008 7:20 PM EST


Then I’ve done my job. :D

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 7:34 PM EST


That and property design, I’ve been playing SimTower and have a great idea for a twenty storey hotel, but the largest building in my town is only about nine.

Damn, SimTower, that brings me back. Back when I was a junior-junior counselor at a day camp some years ago, one of the computer games in our rickety computer lab was SimTower. I had a pretty damn good one by the time summer ended.

And also…I SCORED A WII! :) :) :) Yay. As it turns out, my dad bought one too, not knowing that I had found one. Sorry, I already found a buyer for the 2nd one. :(

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 02/27/2008 7:43 PM EST


Wow someone made Guise feel dirty? I didn’t think such a thing was possible! lol

Ghosted by Dan @ 02/27/2008 7:44 PM EST


Norb, I’m using SimTower to bring me down from SimCity 4 which I was using to come down from Civilization IV. It’s reverse gateway.

Dan, I kind of did it to myself. So much talk about ‘romantic liaisons’ for one day…then with Darth’s name, just too much when my mind tried to shorten it.

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/27/2008 7:49 PM EST


Now you understand the power of the dark side!

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 02/27/2008 8:28 PM EST


Hello everyone! Sorry I haven’t posted in a while, but I have to be at work in half an hour. I’ll be back after my shift. Congratulations to Invader Norbert on his recent Wii purchase!

Ghosted by Hoverbored @ 02/27/2008 8:32 PM EST


Congrats on the Wii, Norb! I am deeply envious :D

Guise: Okay, I’ve never played those games, but I love other similar games (Civ II and the older SimCity games), so now I have a question for you. Out of the three you mentioned – Civ IV, SimCity 4, and SimTower – which would you say is the best? I have actually heard that a lot of people hate Civ IV and are all “waaah Civ II was the best rabble rabble”, so I’m especially curious about that one.

Now I’m off to Sonic for delicious cherry limeade and a Butterfinger Blast :D

Ghosted by jazzy @ 02/27/2008 8:57 PM EST


Mono is the biggest bitch ever. I had that shit when I was 15 and it’s a good thing that I didn’t get it during the school year, because I would have been royally screwed. I was incapacitated for nearly a month.

Ghosted by Annette @ 02/27/2008 9:43 PM EST


I don’t want to start this again, but what is Everyone’s Wii Friend Codes?

Mine is 3274 4751 6123 9943

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 02/27/2008 11:04 PM EST


I had a mysterious throat aliment 2 years ago, they couldn’t diagnose it as mono without a blood test, and apparently it has a small window of showing up in tests anyway. They just assumed I had mono, which it was very likely I did. They did however rule out strep. I was so tired and my throat hurt, but for a while I felt worse when they gave me medication for it. About 3 days with meds and I started to feel better.

It was quite a sucky week, but at least I got out of school and work, and my friend brought me a pint of Ben and Jerry’s :)

Ghosted by Heza @ 02/27/2008 11:09 PM EST


So I just stumbled upon the best site ever, and it just happens to be star wars related… http://fun.drno.de/flash/yoda_film.swf and enjoy

Ghosted by Leigha @ 02/28/2008 12:36 AM EST


Um, can I at least say that my original post (which apparently violated some rule, which I can deal with that) mentioned my having mono, just so we know that’s why we’re talking about that? That seems reasonable to me…

Anyway, yeah, the first time I had it I was unlucky enough to get it right at the beginning of the school year. I had to repeat 7th grade, which really, really sucked since I was already older than everybody since my birthday was in September. That meant my second time in 7th grade, everyone else was twelve when I was fourteen. Being 14 and being surrounded by 12-year-olds is nooot fun :(

Ghosted by jazzy @ 02/28/2008 1:20 AM EST


I have a lot of catching up to do on the blogs. XE was added to the filters a few weeks ago, so I haven’t been on much.

Invader Norbert

Congrats on the score!

Since I last posted I’ve broken it off with the lady (on good terms), picked up a Ps3 and Burnout Paradise (it’s like crack I tells ya), and threw together a trip to Las Vegas with my dad and younger brothers. My youngest brother is turning 21 so we’re all going out for a week in mid June. It’s our (except for my dad) first time out there and we’re staying at the Mirage in the same exact room plan that the Griswolds stayed in. Needless to say, we’re pretty excited.

Ghosted by fistpittingnork @ 02/28/2008 1:57 AM EST


I haven’t even put in Wii Sports yet…All I’ve done tonight was check out the Channels and extras.

I’ve already created 3 Miis…myself, Barack Obama and John McCain. I plan to have the 2 of them duke it out in Wii Boxing.

And, thanks to a suggestion by Mortalwind, I’ve decided to start an “actual” blog as well.

You can find it here: http://galileo908.blogspot.com/

It’s title may seem familar to you folk…

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 02/28/2008 2:10 AM EST


I don’t have my Wii friend code on hand, sorry. My Wii is on a journey back to my front porch after being repaired in California. It was sick with pixelation-itis – but I’ve been told its all better now.

In my imagination it is currently sharing a thought-to-be empty boxcar with a few bums on an east-bound train, somewhere in Kansas. They are sharing stories, an uncooked can of baked beans, and a bottle of apple brandy.

I hope it has fun.

Ghosted by Magic Toy @ 02/28/2008 3:22 AM EST


Jazzy, having played all except for Civ3 (and including Colonization and Alpha Centuri), I actually like Civ4 a damn lot more than the others. It has it’s flaws, for example the infamous Spearmen beating Tanks, but it is a great game and the multiplayer functions make it go above and beyond. I prefer it to Civ2, but I think it’s a much more watered down version of the game.

SimCity4 isn’t really anything new, just twiddles with features and makes things pretty. They have the Sims import which is just a bit of game fluff and an ability to drive around in vehicles (you complete missions for special buildings, but you can earn those buildings with pre-requisites). SimCity4 is just a new version of the other SimCities – in some ways I actually prefer the SNES version of SimCity or the ‘real person’ video clips from SimCity 3000.

SimTower is age old and really damn simplistic, it doesn’t have the range of SimCity but it’s a good timewaster.

I’d probably rate it in terms of best to least best: Civ4 – SimCity4 – SettlersII – Populus – WarcraftII – Theme Hospital – SimTower – Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds – Theme Park – Capitalization

Norb, I’m so glad to hear of a move, or at least cross-posting. I rarely ever look at MySpace unless I see it linked from FaceBook, and even less leave comments!

One of the things I love about X-E folks is I can pick any of your links to a blog and find that the person tends to write with a great sense of wit and thought. Even if I then just end up lurking, commentless. XD

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/28/2008 7:01 AM EST


Rich, Also, if you wanna put something in italics, just replace the “b” with “i” in the brackets.

Man, I soooo want a PS3. I was planning on buying one next month, but I really need to save up for a down payment on another car. Mine’s just about on its last legs. Plus, I’m gonna see The Cure in June, and that ain’t cheap. Yippee for tax returns.

Ghosted by DJ D @ 02/28/2008 8:18 AM EST


Thanks Patio! Although, that still offers little explaination, at least I know i wasn’t seeing things! Really creepy.

Ghosted by BelmarBenny @ 02/28/2008 9:54 AM EST


It’s official, I’m become addicted to X-E. It’s the first website I check every morning, even if I don’t post anything.

Ghosted by JLAJRC @ 02/28/2008 11:38 AM EST


ITA with you, Guise. I can’t even really read people’s MySpaces if I wanted to, it’s even uglier on Mobile than it is on a computer, and forget about trying to leave a comment. I’ve been bookmarking the hell out of everybody’s non-Space blogs though. Looking forward to the rest of the villian countdown, Invader!

I just saw a commercial for something called “Three Pigs and a Baby”. I wonder if Selleck and crew find that offensive at all.

Ghosted by squee4242 @ 02/28/2008 11:43 AM EST


Squee4242: I JUST saw the commercial for that this morning. It frightened me.

Ghosted by Dio and Lex @ 02/28/2008 12:38 PM EST


HEY MATT!!!I’m sure you know this ,being an insider and all, but have you seen the Cloverfield monster action figure?Bad ass.

Ghosted by T.J. @ 02/28/2008 1:24 PM EST


I think I may start up a separate blog from my myspace like I had in the past. I had a Ujournal in mid 03, switched to livejournal when it took down friend codes late 03, then wrote for 3 straight years in it, then gave in to myspace and wrote there.

Most of my blogs are just wonderful little rants about life anyway.

Ghosted by Hezadancer @ 02/28/2008 1:51 PM EST


Hey Matt – you may be interested in this. I’m a film student at Concordia University in Montreal. Today we were talking about what is acceptable in terms of mistakes with blocking. In other words, accidently having a tripod in the side of the frame or… um… a light stand being reflected in a window… maybe a wire showing. Etc.

So I showed him this video during our classes 15 minute break. He then decided to show it to class when we got back from break. We then had a serious discussion about the acceptability of Ted Dansons cardboard cutout in the shot.

Yep.

He later showed us a clip from the so bad it may be considered ok to good at least to laugh at 1995 movie (from a Stephen King novel) “The Langoliers” – check it out.

Ghosted by Max D @ 02/28/2008 2:35 PM EST


My main thing about MySpace is that it tries to be customisable without actually letting you change much at all. Well, that and that a lot of it reminds me of old Geocities sites.

I ran my stuff on LiveJournal because it was there, then I decided to switch to my own hosted Wordpress because I didn’t like being attached to a brand like LJ, Xanga, Blogger.

I wanted to be free to be as surreal, deranged, depraved or friendly as I like.

MySpace, once you get past the bells and whistles, is as good a place as any for social networking. I just find that the blogging area of it is a bit of an afterthought added on, the same for Facebook really.

The differnce between the systems, other than the audience, seems to be that MySpace allows you to add colours, increase the number of people from a porn site offering you a good time and set up things that play automatically on load (Geocities/AOL Homepages) whereas Facebook is clinical appearance, static in sound and allows you to get bogged down in gadgets (Google Pages/iGoogle).

Wow, that was longwinded. Lookit me, I’m a snob!

Heza, nothing wrong with a good rant! I keep a LJ seperate from my actual blog just so I have a place to be a Drama Llama from time to time. Sometimes it’s fun to read other peoples vents too!

Ghosted by Guise @ 02/28/2008 2:37 PM EST


I’ve tried a couple of different blog/networking sites in the past. I’ve posted quite a few on MySpace but a lot of those are not very interesting so I’ve decided to take a cue from some of the others here and give wordpress a shot. I don’t know if it’ll be worth reading or not but I figured I’d give it a shot.

Ghosted by Dan @ 02/28/2008 3:36 PM EST


Oy, the facebook “gadgets”….hate them! One of the many reasons I don’t check my facebook.

I’m proud my facebook has 0 gadgets, and I hate how all my friends have tons of gadgets and try and get me to join them too. Some even require you send an invite to all your friends to get it. No I don’t want to be part of the “Omg lets super poke Mickey Rooney as many times as we can club”….I just pulled that name out of my ass, poor Mickey Rooney.

As for wordpress, I’ll probably jump on board soon and have some grand rants.

Ghosted by Heza @ 02/28/2008 4:04 PM EST


I’ve tried lots of different blog sites and usually end up using them for different purposes. Myspace is for various life updates, LJ is for emo bitching that I wanna show my close friends but not everyone I went to high school with (I hate the “preferred list” on Myspace), Wordpress is for actual writing about stuff. I generally like Wordpress the best just because it’s pretty simple. You go to somebody’s page, and what they’ve written is right there, nice and clean and easy to see. I really hate the stupid “cut” thing on LJ, where I get screamed at by everyone on my friends list if I don’t post in a certain format. Screw that. Also, Facebook sucks and can rot in hell.

BTW, I am currently posting this from inside a blanket fort. Gotta love the mild insanity that prolonged cabin fever creates.

Ghosted by jazzy @ 02/28/2008 4:30 PM EST


Gotta love the blanket fort!

Ghosted by Dan @ 02/28/2008 4:43 PM EST


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