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07/06/2007: Summer Megaparty: OCTOSQUID!

If the world can be divided into any two distinct camps, it’s people who think squids are cooler than octopi, and people who think octopi are cooler than squids. It’s a difficult question for me and it almost hurts to make an answer, but I’d give squids the overall advantage. There’s just too many stories of them killing people and growing to the size of football stadiums for any octopus to keep up.

Course, it’s easier not to choose, and Mother Nature appears to be giving us a third option: THE OCTOSQUID.


As reported here, a creature that appears to blend the traits of an octopus and a squid has been caught near Hawaii. Well, actually, it wasn’t exactly “caught” — the thing got itself caught up in a deep sea pipeline. It lived on for three days after being collected, and the now-dead specimen continues to puzzle scientists.

Its northern parts looking squid-like and its southern parts looking octopus-like, it’s a seeming combo of two of the sea’s coolest creatures. While I gave squids the advantage a few paragraphs ago, the animals share several traits that make me love both of them to death.

For one, both squids and octopi have notably high intelligence. They’re crazy smart. The story of that one octopus figuring out how to escape its lab tank at night to eat fish out of other tanks is well known, but squids can be just as clever.

For two, both eat in really awesome ways. A squid is one of the scariest creatures in the ocean. Its suction cups don’t just stick — they pierce. By the time the bloodied prey is drawn to its mouth, the victim is chewed up by what’s essentially an eagle beak. Octopi, for their part, smother the fuck out of their prey and are known to be some of the messiest eaters in the sea, leaving the shells and carapaces of dinner all over the floor of their lairs. They’re party animals.

For three, both squid and octopi are boosted by the many myths, rumors and half-truths of cryptozoology. While “giant squid” are no longer a thing of mystery, most of us are still waiting for something like the Kraken to show up. There are also stories of octopi far larger than any known octopus, destroying ships and taking names. Both animals are charmed by having no real limit to their size. Imagine if something like a bee or a wolf could grow as large as a bus — that’s the kind of legendary-maybes our tentacles friends swim within.

As for the Octosquid, it’s a new species for sure, but visual similarities don’t necessarily dictate that an octopus got it on with a squid at some point in the not too distant past. But it’d be pretty cool if that turns out to be true.


When news reports give you an excuse to draw an octopus and a squid making out, it’s a good day.


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Discussion Thread: 101 comments

Magic Toehttp://www.x-entertainment.com/messages/373.html

Oooohhh… beat you to the draw this time, Knegs!

Ghosted by Mystie @ 07/06/2007 10:15 PM EDT


Magic Toe- try clicking my name.

I was just reading that one last week. Classic.

Ghosted by Rainbowfeet @ 07/06/2007 10:16 PM EDT


Yeah, whoops. Good job Mystie! Don’t know how I screwed mine up.

Ghosted by Rainbowfeet @ 07/06/2007 10:17 PM EDT


I actually left the house for a minute there, Mystie.

I consider it a moral victory.

Ghosted by Knegative @ 07/06/2007 10:18 PM EDT


Mystie - Thank you so much!

Rainbowfeet - Yeah, I found the one you did to, the one on Sea Monkeys. I didn’t understand that either coming up as the first hit on the search.

Regardless, thanks to both of you.

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/06/2007 10:22 PM EDT


Uh oh. The blog just did that thing you’re talking about, Matt.

“You’re looking for something that isn’t here”

I’m looking for the blog not Kamino :evil:

Ghosted by Knegative @ 07/06/2007 10:43 PM EDT


Pretty sure I figured out why it’s doing it, but I have to wait for the server dudes to confirm.

And +1 for Kamino.

Ghosted by Matt @ 07/06/2007 10:43 PM EDT


Wow, I was talking to my cube buddy this very day and she enlightened me about the deleted Goonies scene. I’d never heard of it before. Same person gave me a report on the Burbank Kwik-E-Mart; apparently even at midnight there was a line out the door to get in, and they had an employee manning the Squishee machine, so as to keep people from stealing extra cups, I guess.
Happy Friday everybody! I’m off to the carnival.

Ghosted by squee4242 @ 07/06/2007 10:52 PM EDT


haha, I just reread the Nad’s article. Good times… I thought that stuff was pretty tasty though. They just came out with new Strawberry Nad’s…maybe it’s time for a new article?

Ghosted by Lilly @ 07/06/2007 11:08 PM EDT


I want a carnival :cry: I didn’t know about the deleted scene either. I’ve only seen the movie a trillion times. It’s really quite an inspiration for both Kris Roe and Pete Wentz, as well ;)

Ghosted by Knegative @ 07/06/2007 11:09 PM EDT


Serious question for Kneg, does it bother you to be the “here it is” guy? I feel guilty about that sometimes. Especially on the last thread where I just assumed, “Well, Kneg will pick up the slack and do the work for me.”

And now for the double meaning KAMINO/KNEG SEGUE/BONUS JOKE:
If it’s not in the archives, it doesn’t exist. :)

Ghosted by The Manimal @ 07/06/2007 11:10 PM EDT


We uh…should be back now? Well, we’re on our way to being back. I hate bugs.

Ghosted by Matt @ 07/07/2007 12:01 AM EDT


OK, here is an idea for a discussion for the next couple of hours. What is the worst movie that you have ever chosen to take a date to? Or it could also be the worst movie that a date has ever taken you to?

I’ll post my two-way tie winners in a bit.

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/07/2007 12:04 AM EDT


Yah, I can see the blog again!

This post is cool timing, as I’m going to the Georgia Aquarium tomorrow :)

Ghosted by Shuanfu @ 07/07/2007 12:25 AM EDT


I don’t mind, Manimal. It doesn’t take much effort to find articles. Usually it is an issue of me remembering an article about something that someone newer to the site brings up. It comes from being around for a lot of the articles that fall before those in the text box on the main page and reading much longer than I’ve been posting.

When it comes to blog posts, well I have a sort of foggy, imperfect, text version of photographic memory. I can usually remember the exact phrasing of a comment, which helps me find what I’m looking for. If I get to it first, I get to it first. If Mystie gets there, it doesn’t hurt my ego. As long as everyone gets what they need, I’m happy.

Ghosted by Knegative @ 07/07/2007 12:52 AM EDT


I don’t think I’ve been to any bad movies on dates, really. But this one time I went on a movie date and before the movie this guy’s geeking out telling me that he owns every episode of Transformers on DVD and how awesome they all look on his shelf next to each other. Like 10 minutes into the movie we’re making out and he starts begging me to bite his neck. Like REALLY bite it. Then he starts going on about how he wants me to put bondage collars on him and shit. I seriously attract the strangest guys. I have so many horrible relationship stories. :lol:

Ghosted by Mystie @ 07/07/2007 12:53 AM EDT


I will have to vote here–I’ll have to go with Nautilus. More tentacles and a big shell, plus they’ve been around longer.

And Octosquid makes more sense fro a root-word concept; octosquid implies a squid with eight somethings as opposed to squidopus which means…nothing. Squid-foot at a really long reach.

Wouldn’t it be cool to find out that it is actually a true octopus, adapted to a squid-like pelagic lifestyle (free-swimming octopuses do exist after all)? Although more likely, a squid has had a reduction in the number of tentacles. Either way–Evolution in action!

Ghosted by Sean (of the fish) @ 07/07/2007 12:53 AM EDT


Lethal Weapon is on HBO-HD. Woo-Hoo!

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/07/2007 12:57 AM EDT


That is so freaking awesome. I think I like the color more than anything else about it; it looks like one of those growing sponge things. Only awesomer.

I think octopi are scarier for some reason. I think it may have to do with all the cute cartoonifications of them. Then you see footage of real ones and you realize how NOT CUTE it would be if it were coming toward you. Same thing with hippos. For some reason I didn’t see cute-ified squid when I was a kid. They’re scary, but they’re supposed to be scary.

I’m also reminded of the Planet Earth footage of the giant sunflower starfish running around trying to eat the little stars. Freaky and amazing.

Ghosted by Bluejay @ 07/07/2007 1:01 AM EDT


Sean: If you’re going to add a Nautilus to the running, I’ll raise you a cuttlefish.

I’m really curious to hear more about this. I want to know if the specimen is a youngin or an adult — more or less to support my own imagination when a situation calls for dreaming up an octosquid far larger than this one appears to be.

To BlueJay’s point, I’d consider squids by and large more menacing than octopi (octopuses, octowhatevers), just based on the nature and ferocity of their attacks. When a squid wants something, it’s kind of like a shark wanting something. That said, an octopus can be so creepy and unpredictable that, if we’re talking about one squid and one octopus of equal size and menace, I’ll gladly let the squid beak my balls off.

Ghosted by Matt @ 07/07/2007 1:23 AM EDT


OK, here is an idea for a discussion for the next couple of hours. What is the worst movie that you have ever chosen to take a date to? Or it could also be the worst movie that a date has ever taken you to?

I said it earlier but I’ll say it again: Duplex, just last night. We both hated it.

Best one: Just 2 months ago, when we were the only 2 people in Blades of Glory, we were free to make out & yell at the screen with no one around.

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 07/07/2007 1:24 AM EDT


Mystie - Nice! Well, not really. I’ve never been asked to REALLY bite someone before, and I don’t know if I could do it. Okay, I probably couldn’t.

Well I promised my bad date movies earlier. So guess I’ll share. Hopefully this will inspire a couple others to open up.

Here are my VERY poor choices.

1. 8MM – Why I ever thought it was a good idea to take a young lady to a movie revolving around the production of snuff-films is beyond even me. I had seen it the weekend before with a group of guy friends and we all had a good time. I really enjoyed the scene where Nicholas Cage talks to the mom of the girl (SPOILERS) who was murdered to “psyche himself up” before he can do the deed and bash Tony Soprano to death with the butt of his gun. James Gandolfini had never been so despicable. The movie also had scenes of gratuitous sex and nudity… and not in an inviting, sensual sort of way. It was more of a sick, seedy, pornographic kind of way.

For whatever reason the date worked and we ended up staying together for two years. It didn’t work out in the end… but I still blame it on Nic Cage.

2. Tomcats - This is one of the worst films ever made. Obviously trying to cash in on the gross-out comedy scene that American Pie had re-invigorated a few years earlier. Basically I had regretted the 8MM decision so much that this time I decided to take the exact opposite route. I would go for the mindless comedy and not the film that could be dark and disturbing, and you know, make the girl I was with think I was a candidate for an appearance on Court TV in 2012.

Unfortunately while watching the characters chase around a severed testicle… during a scene that lasted about 37 minutes too long… I quickly realized I had made a poor decision. Jesus this was a bad movie.

Somehow it didn’t kill the just-budding relationship as the girl I took is now sleeping in the bedroom on the floor above me. This might be a creepy statement if I was currently residing in a hotel or apartment building. Thankfully I am not, which means we are still together and I am not a psycho stalking her.

OK, so 8MM and Tomcats, evidence that my dating-IQ, if there is such a thing, is nowhere near Forrest Gump level.

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/07/2007 1:26 AM EDT


Not only is it half-octopus/half-squid, it’s red.

Like a race car.

Ghosted by Ben @ 07/07/2007 1:28 AM EDT


Since the Nautilus has been brought up, I must ask… has anyone else here played the game Seaman on the Sega Dreamcast?

In my opinion it is one of the more underappreciated software titles of the past decade.

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/07/2007 1:31 AM EDT


The Lake House

It wasn’t a date in my mind, but I later found out that it was in the mind of the person I went with (which is a whole issue unto itself). Point being, that movie is abysmal, no matter what I said on this very blog at the time. The worst part is that it was my second time seeing it :evil:

Ghosted by Knegative forgives Keanu anyway @ 07/07/2007 1:31 AM EDT


Oh man I was just sitting here reading Cosmo and I saw the most fantastic thing that reminded me of that great conversation we had the other week on the cruise blog. Cosmo’s Aqua Kama Sutra. It’s like an ocean sex guide! And get this — the book is totally waterproof.

Ghosted by Mystie @ 07/07/2007 1:58 AM EDT


Yowza. I bet it’s like those plastic children’s books that you could take in the tub. That’s what I like to do while I’m bathing, read o_O

“I wasn’t masturbating, I was cleaning it and it went off”

Ghosted by Knegative @ 07/07/2007 2:03 AM EDT


After digging in a basement closet for far too long attempting to dig out my long dormant Sega Dreamcast (to play Seaman) I just remembered that I DVR’d Gleaming the Cube. Woo-Hoo, does it get any better? Second “woo-hoo!” of the night, BTW.

Well, yes, it could be far better than that. I encountered a couple of very introverted basement closet spiders that do not appreciate company.

Screw them. Until they start chipping-in on the mortgage payment I won’t feel guilty for killing them.

Ghosted by Magic Toe @ 07/07/2007 2:26 AM EDT


I posted my comment days late in the Shell Shanty blog, so I wasn’t sure if it went unseen. But because it is equally on topic here, Matt, I will re-post the link just to be safe, and in case you were still longing for this thing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Amber-Octopus-Lamp-6-tall_W0QQitemZ290134269265QQihZ019QQcategoryZ4056QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Cheers.

Ghosted by Diego @ 07/07/2007 3:07 AM EDT


This article makes me wish, even more, that Matt would’ve bought that octopus lamp.

Ghosted by fistpittingnork @ 07/07/2007 5:54 AM EDT


Octopuses/Octopi = awesome. Squid = scary as shit. Something that is both squishy and has a beak is too weird for me. Plus that whole eating-people thing, and vision of giant Kraken-esque squid. *shudder*

Ghosted by Frakkyfire @ 07/07/2007 7:52 AM EDT


Okay, so I grew up in one of those one-horse towns where the city council knackered the horse in the mid 70s and sold the glue for meth. Our movie theater had one screen, and had one movie per week, with a showing on Friday night and another on Saturday. So if you wanted to take a girl to the movies, you were probably going to end up taking her to some wildly unsuitable film.

The low point of my date-movie career was probably senior year, when I was dating a girl whose father viewed me with intense suspicion, lived about four blocks down from the theater, and was an unarmed combat instructor for the national guard. Which meant that if I said I was taking her to the movies, I actually had to take her to the movies, or have my neck broken.

So in all that time, the worst movie overall would probably have to be Charlie’s Angels 3 and the worst date movie was Lilo and Stitch.

Ghosted by Jedoc @ 07/07/2007 8:16 AM EDT


Mystie, I just read your NYC blog! Sounds like you had a lot of fun…I went at the end of May and also had a great time in the wax museum! You got some great pictures!

Ghosted by Lilly @ 07/07/2007 10:05 AM EDT


Does anyone else find it interesting that undiscovered species can be discovered in an Indonesian grocery store?
If someone eats it for dinner hasn’t it kinda been discovered?
Is it only truly discovered when a European scientist has one?
Does this mean Bigfoot and UFOs are real or do we have to wait for a European scientist to have one?

I’ll stop.

Ghosted by Fungusmungus @ 07/07/2007 10:31 AM EDT


The first and last REAL date I ever went on: BEVERLY HILLS NINJA.

Ghosted by The Manimal @ 07/07/2007 10:39 AM EDT


I know there was a movie about a killer octopus during that killer sea creature movie craze that started with Jaws, but what about a killer squid? I don’t remember any. The Kracken in Pirates 2 doesn’t count.

Ghosted by JLAJRC @ 07/07/2007 10:47 AM EDT


I have seen Transformers, and Bumblebee was cool as hell.

Ghosted by Julie @ 07/07/2007 11:18 AM EDT


I saw “American Beauty” on a first date…wish we had seen something that wasn’t quite so HEAVY. It led to deep conversations and stuff…we dated 2 years…

Ghosted by Muppet Baby @ 07/07/2007 12:22 PM EDT


JLAJRC – the movie you are thinking about is (probably) Tentacles, and Italian cash-in on the JAWS style movie. Of course, there was also Peter Benchley’s “The Beast”, but it sucks differently. And that guy should rot in hell, for what he did to sharks.

Matt, I’ll see you Cuttlefish and raise you an Ammonite (a really funky one, like Nipponites).

Fungusmungus – As someone that has described new fossil species (and someday my co-author will finish getting the paper in) I have dealt with this theoretically. Generally, when someone says a new species was discovered, it means it has been identified as unique and published on in a scientific paper–this is true whether it is a European or Asian or African or whatever who does the discovering. Of course, the market people have discovered it first, but they often don’t care whether a certain rat or goat is different than ones that everyone else knows about Unless they taste markedly different). And as a longer aside, I too get peeved at the idea that animals could evolve, exist, and go extinct without us ever knowing and that is somehow the misfortune of the animal–like our (humankind’s) knowledge of them gives some sort of validation for their existence.

Ghosted by Sean (of the fish) @ 07/07/2007 12:35 PM EDT


I know there was a movie about a killer octopus during that killer sea creature movie craze that started with Jaws, but what about a killer squid? I don’t remember any. The Kracken in Pirates 2 doesn’t count.

The Giant Squid from “20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.”

Also, an actual Nautilus…I’ll admit, THAT’S the Cephalapod that creeps the hell out of me.

Ghosted by Invader Norbert @ 07/07/2007 12:50 PM EDT


I’m not even sure I remember what a “date” is anymore. I can say from long ago experience that if seeing Moulin Rouge together doesn’t bump you out of the Friend Zone, well, maybe nothing will.
The carnival turned out to be a successful venture. I had some yummy carnitas, sang along to a cover band playing “Margaritaville” and came up like crazy at the used book sale, my real reason for going. Picked up tons of great books: The Sun Also Rises, Memoirs of a Geisha, The Diary of Anais Nin, a couple of Mario Puzo novels, a book about the petroglyphs of Hawai’i (for an friend who’s an archaeology major), The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven, The Playboy’s Bar Guide (copyright 1971!), the autobiography of Chuck Jones, and the book that Children of Men was based on (my most serendipitous find considering I just saw the movie a few days ago and decided to look for the book). All for the princely sum of two dollars and fifty cents.
For a second I thought maybe Tentacles was another title for the awesomely bad Devil Fish, since terrible movies tend to have a half dozen names. No such luck though. Hey, if we really wanted to do a syncronized MST3K viewing that would be a good one. It’s on YouTube.

Ghosted by squee4242 @ 07/07/2007 12:57 PM EDT


Sean (of the fish)-Thanks for making my point clearer. We are a pompous species aren’t we? Well we are pretty good at a lot of stuff… like:
-roads
-buildings
-words
-books
-music
-airplanes
-bombs
-global warming

…. oh, yeah. We are a kind of unfortunate development for the old planet here aren’t we?

We did come up with Pac-Man and Mario though so… I guess that makes up for it.

And Hot Pockets… they’re tasty.

Ghosted by Fungusmungus @ 07/07/2007 1:17 PM EDT


I guess I pick a squid. I think I would choose jellyfish if they were an option.

Ghosted by kb @ 07/07/2007 1:27 PM EDT


Matt brought up Cuttlefishes a while back… Cuttlefishes are gods among Mollusca. They are the greatest race that has ever swum through the depths of the oceans. So yea, they’re better than Octopuses and Squids combined!

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 07/07/2007 3:39 PM EDT


The world looks mighty good to me,
‘Cause Octosquid are all I see.
Whatever it is I think I see,
Becomes an Octosquid to me!
Boiled, baked, stir-fry, calamari too,
Octosquid I think I’m in love with you!
Whatever it is I think I see,
Becomes an Octosquid to me!

Ghosted by kingklash @ 07/07/2007 4:29 PM EDT


Now just make this creature the size of an ocean liner, and this year will be the coolest ever. (And I will never go in the ocean again.)

Ghosted by Andrew @ 07/08/2007 11:49 PM EDT


I’ll have to give the edge to the Squids.

1) Cooler name
2) Better mystique
3) Navy guys aren’t referred to as “Octopi”
4) Whenever there’s a giant sea monster behemoth in pop culture, what does it almost ALWAYS resemble? I’ll give you a hint: It’s not an octopus.

Don’t get me wrong. Octopi are hella cool, but Game, Set and Match goes to the squid hands down.

Ghosted by Kev @ 07/09/2007 2:35 PM EDT


Deep sea pipeline? I sense a mutant.

Ghosted by Frumious @ 07/10/2007 1:38 AM EDT


Or is it a Cuttlefish: “These are seriously one of the most amazing animals of all, folks. They look like mutant children of a ill-fated but nonetheless mated octopus and squid…”

http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/disneyadventure/part1/

Ghosted by Jeff @ 07/12/2007 2:24 PM EDT


Wow. I’m totally behind on your blog for the first time in a while. (Not to put any further pressure on you). Always appreciate when you gift us an article :)

Ghosted by Coltyhuxx @ 07/16/2007 4:45 PM EDT


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