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Back from Toronto…

EDIT: Group 013 of The Cereal Prize Project has been posted.

Finally home. Toronto was great -- the city is insanely clean compared to what I'm used to, and the people I was working with refused to believe that it wasn't uncommon for people here to go to a drive-thru fast food joint and just throw their garbage out the window when they were finished scarfing. Seriously, there wasn't a single piece of trash on the ground anywhere, even at the coveted corners where streets met sidewalks. Pretty amazing for such a busy city, but maybe I'm just bias, my hometown being a reeking filthhole and all. A couple of things I learned about Toronto...

1) 10% of the population have at one time starred on Degrassi.
2) All that stuff about "aye" and "oot" isn't a myth.
3) Clamato is very, very well liked.
4) It ain't soda. It's "pop."
5) You can't buy Marlboro Lights.

The hotel I stayed at was really purdy -- the kind of purdy that can only be attained on a business trip where you're not paying. When I checked in, the front desk lady insisted that one of the hired hands give me a tour of my hotel room. My basic instincts were crying out for me to tell them that I was in a rush, but they looked so happy about this damn room tour...I had no choice. So began a fifteen minute exploration of my hotel room -- a room that was certainly nice, but in no way, shape or form needing fifteen minutes worth of explanation. "And here's the switch that opens and closes your curtains." "And here's the switch that turns on the floor heaters in the bathroom, though those only work in the winter." "And here's your phone. And there's your other phone." "And that's your bed." "And these are your sheets and blankets. On top of the bed." It was endless, and if I'm being honest, I'd drank about fourteen cups of coffee before boarding the plane, and by this point, getting those fourteen cups out of my dick tube before it exploded seemed a lot more important than floor heaters. I hung in there for as long as I could, finally succumbing and shoving a cash tip in the guy's hand as a very polite way of saying, "GET THE FUCK OUT I NEED TO PISS RIGHT NOW." He took the hint, but not before reminding me that the room's included mini-bar worked on the "honor system."

Oh, those foolishly trusting Canucks. I emptied that bitch out and didn't tell a soul. We'll see how this is reflected on my next credit card bill.

On the final night there, I couldn't help plunging into the hotel's own personal version of LodgeNet, and ended up seeing House of Wax. You know what? That's a pretty decent little horror flick, there. Paris Hilton's role was more for the press releases than the flick; she's a total background character and her role could've been handled by any moderately attractive blonde. If you're avoiding it for Paris-related reasons, you're cheating yourself. Granted, I'm prone to like films like this more than the general public, but there wasn't a thing about House of Wax that I really hated. It goes fast (but not too fast), has a good amount of gore (but not so much that it's reliant on it), and yes, it's actually creepy. Hell, anything that's based on a Vincent Price classic is hard to fuck up on that front. Totally worth your time no matter what you've heard.

This is your all-day Saturday thread. Use it wisely.

Posted by Matt on 08/27/2005. E-mail me!



Discussion Thread: 107 comments

Many, many people in Rochester would argue against the statement that Syracuse is the dividing line for pop vs soda in NY state.

"Well, you know, I think you’d really like America. We’ve got the Liberty Bell, Disneyland on both coasts, it’s happening." -Nick Rivers

Chestnuts roasted by Jenno @ 08/27/2005 4:57 PM


So much to comment on…
Although I am not from GA, I live here now and I agree with Wyatt’s assessment. If the people want a SPRITE, they say SPRITE. The big thing is that this is COCA-COLA territory (obviously) so it is always Coke, Sprite, Sunkist, but especially COKE.
No one I have ever known has used the term pop. I like the term "soda" but, again, it is usually more brand specific.
KNEGATIVE–I also say "aye" because of TRAINSPOTTING. I think it is an inevitable side effect of repeat viewings. Plus, it is a good thing to say when you don’t have a proper rebuttle.
EX: "The machine took my money and I couldn’t get my soda pop."
"Aye."
I know of a way to resolve the "eh or aye" debate: Watch the Canadian restaurant scene in GREMLINS 2 with the subtitles on.
ALLISON–Check that last thread for a rebuttle.
MUPPET BABY–I did see THE GOONIES in ’85. I just thought we were going to see GHOULIES (Again, last thread for those who are interested i.e. nobody).

Chestnuts roasted by The Manimal @ 08/27/2005 5:07 PM


Paris sings, she’s got a song called "screwed". She was on tv a few months ago, shall I say, plugging her album. How well she sings is up to you.

I live in coke country. My dad says pop and people look at him funny.

Chestnuts roasted by Kennef @ 08/27/2005 5:10 PM


Just to add to the soda/pop thread here, in England, apparently, the Lemonade there is carbonated. So, when you ask for lemonade, you get this fizzy yellow stuff.

Toronto can be a slime-hole, but there are points about it too… Strange Brew, one of the greatest movies was filmed there.

Then again, so was Police Academy… seems to balance out :)

Chestnuts roasted by Alpha Centaurian @ 08/27/2005 5:29 PM


Matt,
I’m pretty sure that rubber Fred Flintstone from the Cereal Prize Project was an eraser. I remember having several of them in my little red art box when I was a kid. They lasted at least 6 or 7 years. They may not have been advertised as erasers, but they damn sure worked like them.

Chestnuts roasted by T.J. @ 08/27/2005 5:37 PM


Reading the instructions on the "Mind Reading Trick" and seeing what a gyp it really is confirms what a lot of people have been saying for quite some time:
All the magic has gone out of Garfield.

Chestnuts roasted by kingklash @ 08/27/2005 6:23 PM


Hey, the Yeti, I’ve got to agree with you in that I generally find movie reviews useless. Even among my friends I have very odd taste in movies. I maintain that the Village and Signs are two of the coolest movies I ever saw.

On Grimm, it was definitely treated unfairly by the critics. I think they have some stake in reviewing things negatively, because when they cast a dissenting opinion in the negative it doesn’t look as bad as it would the other way. That is, the critic who gives King Arthur a good review will look worse than the guy who didn’t like Sin City.

However, it wasn’t as good as it could be. I wouldn’t call it disappointing, as it was definitely worth it, but you just go in expecting so much from it. It’s an awesome concept, and Gilliam’s a brilliant visual director, but it just kind of slows at some parts. I’d say I enjoyed it overall though. And I very rarely go to movies these days.

But then again, why trust my opinion?

Chestnuts roasted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 6:26 PM


"Pop." Blurgh. I’ve lived in Ohio (a total "pop" state) for over ten years now and I can’t bring myself to say the word. I don’t much like "soda" either, though. I grew up in West Virginia, which is not as southern as you think it is, but seems to follow the southern trend of calling every soft drink by its actual brand name. It works fine except when I need to refer to soft drinks as a general concept. My mind fuses up because I can’t – WON’T – say "pop", but since EVERYONE here says it, it’s the first word that comes to mind. I end up usually gesturing helplessly and inarticulately. "Pop" really is bad for you.

Chestnuts roasted by gadgetsgirl @ 08/27/2005 6:32 PM


I live 40 miles southwest of Syracuse, NY and it is "soda" here as well. Never heard it called "pop" here in everyday conversations.

Chestnuts roasted by Destro @ 08/27/2005 6:40 PM


we call it soda here as well.. Matt, when will there be another article?

Chestnuts roasted by Jenny @ 08/27/2005 7:21 PM


Since it’s Saturday night, and there may or may not be people hanging out here with nothing to do, try this test: http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/yankeetest.html (oh, if only I knew how to link that pretty; so sorry!).

My score was 51% Yankee. And I’m a Florida native, which just justifies the idea that we are clearly not "southern" except geographically. And for the record, we call it soda.

Chestnuts roasted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 7:34 PM


Oops. Probably should’ve noted that the above test is "Are you a Yankee or a Rebel?" and one of the questions is "What do you call a carbonated beverage" or something like that. See, now there’s relevance!

Chestnuts roasted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 7:35 PM


"26% (Yankee). You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy."

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 7:37 PM


Refer to the Bloodhound Gang song "The Ten Coolest Things About New Jersey", just substitute "Toronto"

Chestnuts roasted by Crocodile Feeling @ 08/27/2005 7:40 PM


Welcome back!
I always thought once you got far enough west the debate died…the only people I’ve ever heard say pop are relatives from Back East.
Clamato is like V8, but with clams. At least that’s what French Stewart has led me to believe.
My buddy absolutely hated Brothers Grimm, but I thought it was pretty good. Some of the FX don’t work at all, but I think most of the critics have been unfairly harsh. Certain gags/characters did get very tiresome real quick but I was satisfied and I’m not a particularly devoted to Gilliam or Damon or anybody else involved.
49% (Yankee). Barely in the Yankee category.
Who’s watching Rome tomorrow night? I think it’s on at the same time as The 4400 season finale…

Chestnuts roasted by squee4242 @ 08/27/2005 7:42 PM


HBO’s dirty trick of very intentionally putting a very long Rome promo on at precisely 9 PM before the Six Feet Under finale (where many, many people were sharply tuned in) seems to have worked on me. I’ll be watching.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 7:47 PM


I wanted to talk about this last week, but I missed it…has anyone ever seen the movie "Pulsebeat"? I swear, it’s the greatest. Well…in that bad sense of the word. It’s like the "Supercross: The Movie" of 80s aerobics.

Chestnuts roasted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 7:49 PM


I care Manimal. Goonies rules!

"Pete and I attacked the laws of Astoria" :)

"So long Astoria, I found a map to buried treasure…" :D

Chestnuts roasted by Knegative @ 08/27/2005 7:58 PM


70% Dixie here although I will say that I do say "sneakers" (but it’s usually in a John Travolta voice) and in FL we called putting toilet paper on a house "wrapping" which was not one of the choices. Mrs. Manimal calls it "rolling" which is the Southern preference.

Thanks Knegative :)

Chestnuts roasted by The Manimal @ 08/27/2005 8:02 PM


44% Yankee? Oh well. I couldn’t help but smile when "Devil’s Night" resulted in "Very common in Michigan." Hometown pride for a night of arson and destruction…whoot! Sidenote: when I was growing up, Devil’s Night was also infamous for being the night on which the TV operators (is that what they’re called?) would switch on all of the Pay-Per-View and premium channels for free…resulting in every kid from 6th through 8th grade coming to school the next day with tapes full of softcore porn for trading. Long live Michigan.

Chestnuts roasted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 8:13 PM


In my town, it was always "Mischief Night."

Mischief Night consisted of the usual — shaving cream, eggs and toilet paper in that order of prominence. For whatever reason, the toilet paper stuff never hit our neighborhood in a big way. Shaving cream, however, was everywhere. We’d all mastered the art of burning the cream-spitting tip in such a way that shaving creme could be shot six or seven feet away. Eggs were also very common, and also resulting in far more controversial incidents. I remember crying my eyes out when one of the neighbor bullets pelted me in the chest and stomach with uncracked eggs, which had the potential to sting like hell. It was a spoken rule that all eggs should be cracked if they were going to be thrown at a person. Then again, remember this ass as I do, it could’ve just as well been a golf ball or rock.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 8:19 PM


Im glad you had fun in T. I wish I could say I enjoy living 10 minutes away from it but I dont. I do admit that we do say eh a lot but the oot thing is not true its the newfoundlanders that say oot!
Im surpirsed you think Toronto is clean, this worries me for when and if I ever go to NY!
What did you think about our Tim Hortons being on every friggin corner??
And I gotta add Degrassi kicks ass, 80s Degrassi anyway, not really the new show, tho it is cool that half the cast is still on there, how I love Joey Jeremiah!! I added his picture to my name just cause:P

Chestnuts roasted by IHAQ @ 08/27/2005 8:32 PM


I have a stupid crush on Craig on Degrassi. Last night he didn’t take his meds and hell broke loose indeed.

Off topic:
Last night I saw Alice Cooper’s "Man Behind the Mask" video for F13 Part VI on VHI Classics. It took be to places I never thought I would go before. Matt, you should get a hold of it and post it for Halloween Season.

Chestnuts roasted by Jessie Spano @ 08/27/2005 9:08 PM


It was posted during last year’s Countdown. :)

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 9:09 PM


39% (Yankee). You are definitely a Yankee.

Born and raised…

in Windsor, Ontario…the most Americanized city outside of the US.

Chestnuts roasted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:18 PM


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