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08/27/2005: Back from Toronto…

EDIT: Group 013 of The Cereal Prize Project has been posted.

Finally home. Toronto was great — the city is insanely clean compared to what I’m used to, and the people I was working with refused to believe that it wasn’t uncommon for people here to go to a drive-thru fast food joint and just throw their garbage out the window when they were finished scarfing. Seriously, there wasn’t a single piece of trash on the ground anywhere, even at the coveted corners where streets met sidewalks. Pretty amazing for such a busy city, but maybe I’m just bias, my hometown being a reeking filthhole and all. A couple of things I learned about Toronto…

1) 10% of the population have at one time starred on Degrassi.
2) All that stuff about “aye” and “oot” isn’t a myth.
3) Clamato is very, very well liked.
4) It ain’t soda. It’s “pop.”
5) You can’t buy Marlboro Lights.

The hotel I stayed at was really purdy — the kind of purdy that can only be attained on a business trip where you’re not paying. When I checked in, the front desk lady insisted that one of the hired hands give me a tour of my hotel room. My basic instincts were crying out for me to tell them that I was in a rush, but they looked so happy about this damn room tour…I had no choice. So began a fifteen minute exploration of my hotel room — a room that was certainly nice, but in no way, shape or form needing fifteen minutes worth of explanation. “And here’s the switch that opens and closes your curtains.” “And here’s the switch that turns on the floor heaters in the bathroom, though those only work in the winter.” “And here’s your phone. And there’s your other phone.” “And that’s your bed.” “And these are your sheets and blankets. On top of the bed.” It was endless, and if I’m being honest, I’d drank about fourteen cups of coffee before boarding the plane, and by this point, getting those fourteen cups out of my dick tube before it exploded seemed a lot more important than floor heaters. I hung in there for as long as I could, finally succumbing and shoving a cash tip in the guy’s hand as a very polite way of saying, “GET THE FUCK OUT I NEED TO PISS RIGHT NOW.” He took the hint, but not before reminding me that the room’s included mini-bar worked on the “honor system.”

Oh, those foolishly trusting Canucks. I emptied that bitch out and didn’t tell a soul. We’ll see how this is reflected on my next credit card bill.

On the final night there, I couldn’t help plunging into the hotel’s own personal version of LodgeNet, and ended up seeing House of Wax. You know what? That’s a pretty decent little horror flick, there. Paris Hilton’s role was more for the press releases than the flick; she’s a total background character and her role could’ve been handled by any moderately attractive blonde. If you’re avoiding it for Paris-related reasons, you’re cheating yourself. Granted, I’m prone to like films like this more than the general public, but there wasn’t a thing about House of Wax that I really hated. It goes fast (but not too fast), has a good amount of gore (but not so much that it’s reliant on it), and yes, it’s actually creepy. Hell, anything that’s based on a Vincent Price classic is hard to fuck up on that front. Totally worth your time no matter what you’ve heard.

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I just keep drinkin’ the memory cells away!

Ghosted by Jessie Spano @ 08/27/2005 9:18 PM EDT


Here’s a link about Clamato. Any Canadian traveling through the US should order a caeser in a bar and be prepared to be told they don’t serve salad…

Ghosted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:21 PM EDT


I dont know Luthor have you ever met anyone from Fort Erie? I would say Widsor comes pretty close tho.

Ghosted by IHAQ @ 08/27/2005 9:22 PM EDT


Luthor, do you ever head down to The Loop? It’s the only bar I frequent in Windsor (being near Detroit, I head through the tunnel every now and again). The best part about going to The Loop is leaving at the end of the night and trying to catch a slice of pizza at Slices before they close. Then we sit around and stare at the embarrassed patrons leaving Cheetah’s. Ahahahahaha.

Ghosted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:27 PM EDT


Kyle,

Did my time at the Loop a long time ago. Back in the day that was a really weird bar. You’d have a wide and varied group of individuals in that joint. Jocks to Goths, Stoners to Skinheads. I’m more of a Coach person now, although I haven’t been downtown for a while.

Slices does rule and EVERYONE that has done the downtown scene has(or should have) done the Slices and Cheetahs watch. Good times.

Just as an aside:

Windsor has the best pizza in the world. Check it out.

Ghosted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:31 PM EDT


Yeah…the pizza is delish. The Loop is essentially the same now…only I don’t think I’ve ever seen skinheads in there. I really, really love the Slices/Cheetah’s thing. It’s the only thing I can think about starting around 12:30 when I’m there.

Ghosted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:37 PM EDT


Note to anyone wondering what the hell is going on: Slices is a pizza joint situated immediately next door to Cheetah’s (or is it "Cheetahs", as in, multiple cheetah?), a strip club with a not-so-sterling reputation.

Ghosted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:39 PM EDT


On a random aside, Field of Dreams is on. I’m not that huge a fan (it does tend to go on a bit), but the last thirty minutes or so is guaranteed to make me all teary-eyed. Why is that? I’ve seen it a million times but it’s just so damned moving…

And I was so glad to see squee4242 mention the 4400. Didn’t know if anyone else was watching it. I watched the marathon at the beginning of this season and got hooked. There was another marathon today; I wonder how many other people they suckered in!

Ghosted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 9:42 PM EDT


More to that:
In Ontario, Full Monty is legal. I read somewhere Windsor is only second to Vegas for most strip joints per capita(in North America). Add to that the close proximity to Detroit, a legal drinking age of 19 and our downtown can become quite the carnival on weekend nights.

Ghosted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:43 PM EDT


Thanks for the links! I scored 98% Southern, which makes sense since I come from Texas. We actually *do* call everything Coke, there (and we call drink vending machines "coke boxes"), which really confused people when I moved up north a while back.

I live in NW Ohio, and all of the kids at the university here go to Windsor because they can drink there. Hearing the boys talk in low, embarrassed voices about the strip joints on Monday is kind of funny.

Ghosted by meredith @ 08/27/2005 10:02 PM EDT


purplegirl, that’s right about the time I got hooked in too. I finally went out and bought the super cheap season 1 DVD set and spent most of a weekend catching up. I’m pretty excited to see what goes on tomorrow night.
Another show I’m a latecomer to is Lost. I’ve been watching the summer reruns, but I’m quitting cold turkey and waiting for the DVD before I watch any more eps so I can see them in order.

Ghosted by squee4242 @ 08/27/2005 10:21 PM EDT


I got 48% Yankee on that test, even though I’ve lived in the south my whole life. I’m very proud of this. And on the Pop Vs. Soda site, I was saddened to see that my county voted overwhelmingly for "coke." Idiots.

Ghosted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 10:30 PM EDT


Glad ta hear ya liked "Tarana", Matt. And although you may have thought we were clean, we were ALOT cleaner years ago. Like New York in the ’70s, we’re going through a "rough patch". From a mayor who seemed to have slipped long ago to a mayor with all the charisma of a pinecone, we go downhill more and more everyday. Did you see the CN Tower, world’s largest free-standing structure? It looks like it’s been patched-up. Our city definitely needs some cleaning-up.

But, fact is, there’s a general wave of apathy sweeping the city. I’ve seen it first-hand – the schools used to have an "earth day" event, where everyone would help clean up the neighbourhood. We used to be praised for our dedication, but last year? Our school had to cancel because only about 5 people expressed any interest in it. Sigh. "Those were the daaaaaays…"

Ghosted by Road Block @ 08/27/2005 10:47 PM EDT


That’s one I don’t get…how does Toronto become Tarana(I’d say it’s more Turanna)?

Ghosted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 11:01 PM EDT


I took that test and scored 41% yankee. It said most of my answers were biased to the Midwest-Great Lakes and northeast, or common nationwide. I’m happy with that, because I grew up (and am still living) in most embarrasing state in the country, Arkansas.

Ghosted by A Man Called Aerodynamics @ 08/27/2005 11:18 PM EDT


Never been outside the US (though I do have Canadian online friends), so I’m just going to say that it’s "soda" in southern New Jersey.

Ghosted by starwenn @ 08/27/2005 11:19 PM EDT


I’m a huge huge huge Degrassi fan. The old show was more novel, but the new one is done well too… or at least the two-parters are… wow were the half-hour episodes bad for a few seasons, and they’re still hit-or-miss! Still, Degrassi Junior High and Degrassi High are my favorite guilty pleasures… I’m faithfully buying them on DVD the day they come out.

Actually, I’ve seriously been considering a trip to Toronto just to see the places it was filmed.

Soda, by the way… in NJ where I grew up, Baltimore where I went to college, and now Boston where I’m in grad school :)

Ghosted by Vegan Mike @ 08/27/2005 11:30 PM EDT


I’ve heard good things about Lost and also, Arrested Development. I have so many other things being TIVOd though that I fear adding anything else to the queue will prevent me from leaving my couch at all. TV series on DVD are the greatest invention though–I’ll be able to catch up on everything through Blockbuster online!

Ah, how I love technology. Never have to leave the comfort of my own home…wait, does that make me sad??

Ghosted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 11:34 PM EDT


In Nebraska everyone calls it pop, at least in Lincoln. I go back and forth between "soda" and "pop" when speaking, but if I’m writing I always use "soda," as "pop" looks incredibly bizarre when being read.

Ghosted by Monte @ 08/27/2005 11:54 PM EDT


Pssst, Vegan Mike click my name :D

Ghosted by IHAQ @ 08/28/2005 12:09 PM EDT


Hm. I got exactly 50% ("Barely a Yankee.") That’s what comes of growing up in WV but making a concerted effort to not SOUND like I grew up there.

While in college, a professor once asked me where I came from (don’t remember how it came up.) I asked him to guess and he said "eastern seaboard." I was delighted, having hoped to obliterate all traces of West Virginny from my accent. I do, however, speak the lingo and can translate for outsiders if need be.

Ghosted by gadgetsgirl @ 08/28/2005 12:40 PM EDT


Yes, fricking yes I bitch about a Cereal update and I get one. Haha oh you’re so awesome Matt.

Ghosted by Nic @ 08/28/2005 12:48 PM EDT


As for "House of Wax," Hilton is no better or worse than any other actor in such a role would have been. What surprised me most about the film was the level of gore. After all the PG-13 horror movies lately, the squishy stuff here was more than welcome, and it makes the flick one of the better Dark Castle pictures. But I’ll never be totally satisfied with that company until they are able to fully immerse me in the William Castle experience, complete with seat-buzzers, skeletons on wires and the Tingler getting loose in the theater.

Ghosted by Monte @ 08/28/2005 12:56 PM EDT


53% (Dixie). Right on the Mason-Dixon Line

that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever seen… considering I’m a sunny So. Cal girl all the way… well, except for the past 5 years as I was living in China and Korea. but that doesn’t change the fact that I’m a So. Cal girl~

Ghosted by Lazy Girl @ 08/28/2005 1:18 AM EDT


Texan here. It’s Coke. Even when I mean Dr Pepper. It’s Coke. "Pop" just sounds strange. "Soda" is even more bizzarre.

Whenever I hear someone say "soda" or "pop," I know they are not from Texas…

Ghosted by Cameron T. @ 08/28/2005 1:49 AM EDT


I’m glad that you enjoyed Toronto, Matt- I was hoping to hear about it after you mentioned that you were going there. That was my last vacation destination (I went with a couple of my friends back in March and we had a great time). I, too, found it to be really clean (at least in most areas), but I guess it’s pretty easy to look good compared to Detroit. I felt really safe, too, walking around even after dark (and boy did we walk). My friend Mike was freaking out about being in the city, and my friend Mary and I were like "Wow, this is nice." (Especially since we do the Detroit thing for school- and that’s the nice part of the city.) So yeah, I’m glad you had a good time.
Also- could anyone tell me what’s the deal with Val Kilmer? :)

I took that test, too (40%- Yankee) right before I read Kyle’s post about Devil’s Night. I was going to post the exact same thing- I smiled at that, too. I was talking to my freshman lab TA a couple of years ago, and he wanted to know all about Devil’s Night. Until then, I had no idea that that was uncommon (at least by that name and to that degree).

I almost forgot to check in today- I’m so glad I did.

And Matt- did you get that package I sent you about a month or so ago? I just wanted to check. Thanks.

Ghosted by Rainbowfeet @ 08/28/2005 2:08 AM EDT


I think the deal with Paris Hilton is that no matter how untalented she is, people (at least the ones that religiously celebrity gossip shows) want to be able to get away with the things she gets away with. They wish to live in slutty houses, drive in slutty cars, and eat only the sluttiest of caviar. Cause, according to her…and many scientific studies…that’s hot.

Speaking of Toronto, I’ve actually never been there but I know that Americans are impressed by its cleanliness. Though, I’ve noticed Canadians say that Toronto is a dump compared to Vancouver. I guess that makes us unhumanly clean.

Ghosted by Dr. Acula @ 08/28/2005 3:15 AM EDT


Have you tried Mountain Dew’s Pitch Black II yet? This year’s has sour bite and is delicously more addicting than last years.

Ghosted by Clay @ 08/28/2005 3:50 AM EDT


I call it soda. Everybody has something to call it and everybody thinks it’s restricted to their region of the world.
Anyways, I crave slutty caviar.

Ghosted by rebecca @ 08/28/2005 4:47 AM EDT


That’s one reason why I could never move to Toronto. I grew up in Montreal, where, if you’re speaking English, you usually say "soft drink". I can tolerate "soda", but, if I hear someone say "pop" in a soft drink context, I subconsciously come to the conclusion that the person saying it is less-educated. I know it’s probably not a fair assessment, but "pop" just sounds weird.

The British "fizz" is still probably the best generic soft drink term of all.

Ghosted by Steve Brandon @ 08/28/2005 5:35 AM EDT


Never in my life have I ever heard about people debating over Pop vs Soda. I always thought it was simply called SodaPop!!

Ghosted by Shortgranite @ 08/28/2005 6:00 AM EDT


IHAQ, that makes me quite happy :)

I’m in Boston, so I order them straight from WGBH… I had my Season 3 a week ago! Now if only Degrassi High would have a release date so I could preorder…

Ghosted by Vegan Mike @ 08/28/2005 9:34 AM EDT


Tarana, Turanna, Torahna, basically it all comes down to "fuck the second ‘t’". Sometimes I would like to pronounce NY "Noo Yok", just like my mother pronounces Chicago "Chikaaaajo". Or Noo Joisy.

Ghosted by Road Block @ 08/28/2005 10:17 AM EDT


Oh, and my brpther’s patented "Montry-el", for Montreal.

Ghosted by Road Block @ 08/28/2005 10:19 AM EDT


Here in my backwater little town in Central Maryland its called soda. I’ve always called it that most people I know do too cept for my neighbor that moved from the south.

The town I live in isn’t of much note but its a 15 minute drive from Frederick MD which is where Fort Detrick the USAMRID base is located. In this day and age its unnerving as hell to live so close to where we keep all the nasty bugs >_<

The city council is a bunch of assholes too heres my favorite example.

A new parks and recreation head was elected and he came to a meeting to introduce himslef. He was wearing a hat and didn’t take it off when he sat down one of the board members complained that it was disrespectful and demnaded he take his hat off. The dude said "Why should I the woman 3 seats down from you is wearing hers". At this point the the councilman went ABSOLUTELY INSANE He flipped out and decided to make a motion that the dude be fired immediately. When the motion didn’t fly he got even more pissed and pulled 35k out of the P&R budget which was eqivalent to a years pay for the position.

Glad I don’t actually live in that city.

Ghosted by The Krypt Angel @ 08/28/2005 12:13 PM EDT


In Philly, it’s soda. I know people call it pop, but I’ve never actually heard anyone say that. And I’ve never heard of the coke thing.

Here’s another thing that might be a local thing. When we go to bars, we do "kittys". Everyone in the group throws $20 up on the bar, and the bartender takes the money from the pile as we get drinks. If it runs out, everyone throws up another $20. Everyone does it here, but whenever people from out of town go to bars with us, they think it’s crazy. Just wondering if anyone else has never heard of it.

Ghosted by Y2JB78 @ 08/28/2005 12:27 PM EDT


So… I was reading a calendar this morning and found the following entry: "Supper (pizza, pop, etc.)"

There you go, not only do I officially live in a place where "pop" appears regularly in print, people also apparently use the term "supper."

Ghosted by Carri @ 08/28/2005 12:54 PM EDT


That test is really fascinating- I was born in MI and moved to NW FL when I was ten, so I knew about a lot of that stuff. But just like gadgetsgirl I grew up not wanting to sound southern so I answered w/ the stuff I actually say, despite which I got "61% Southern".

Another regional bizarrity: I went on a blind date with a girl I met at the bus stop in Somerville, MA once and she suggested bowling. We got there and it was this wierd semi-bowling thing with skeeball balls and small pins. It’s called "Candlepin Bowling" and everyone gets at least a spare every time. Anybody familiar with it? I wonder how widespread it is. The girl hated Steely Dan, btw, so it was a total loss.

Ghosted by consulatsunset @ 08/28/2005 12:55 PM EDT


I can’t believe it’s sunday after noon and the Soda Pop topic never died.

Ghosted by Dohopoki @ 08/28/2005 1:30 PM EDT


Consulat- I’m from Boston originally and I’ve heardof/maybe seen candlepin bowling,but never played.
And we always called it tonic.

Ghosted by kid nicky @ 08/28/2005 1:57 PM EDT


doesn’t tonic just refer to club soda though?

Ghosted by consulatsunset @ 08/28/2005 2:02 PM EDT


Soda or pop? How about neither? I’m from the Deep South and we would just name what we wanted. "I want Coke" "I want Pepsi", etc. None of this generalized stuff. When I moved to New England, everyone calls it "soda". "Soda Machine". Although we did call the vending machines "Coke Machines" down there, mostly cos that’s what we were looking for.

Ah and on the test, I am 73% Dixie and proud of it. Woot.

Ghosted by Kittycatgirl @ 08/28/2005 2:17 PM EDT


"Soda" the first decade of my life, when my family was in California. When we came back to the Sooner State, it slowly became "Pop" just to avoid the odd stares in my direction. 57% (Dixie) right on the Mason-Dixon line. I speak with a Modified Texas/Okie drawl with Left Coast undertones. At least, that’s when I do actually speak. I get categorized as "one of those quiet ones." Just studying my prey, folks. Just studying my prey.

Ghosted by kingklash @ 08/28/2005 2:54 PM EDT


I say it’s soda. It’s all ways been soda and will continue to be soda and anyone who calls it coke is an idiot. Perhaps in Georgia instead of soda they serve cocain. And what happened to my previous posts? Did I anger you Matt? I’m SO SORRY! I DIDN’T MEAN IT! MOMMY!

Ghosted by Darth Poop @ 08/28/2005 3:18 PM EDT


I read online somewhere that "Chip and Dale’s Rescue Rangers" and "Duck Tales" are going to be released on season sets in November – I think Amazon.com has listings now, though that’s all they have.

Ghosted by starwenn @ 08/28/2005 11:14 PM EDT


Just weighing in…

57% (Dixie). Right on the Mason-Dixon Line.

And here in the St. Louis area, it’s Soda.

Ghosted by bad karma @ 08/29/2005 9:52 AM EDT


I don’t understand how most of my answers were "common throughout the US" and yet I’m "66% Dixie". I think it was the Brew-Thru that did me in.

Ghosted by Lori @ 08/29/2005 9:59 AM EDT


Older people around here (ie: my mom and dad…people around their age) say "a can of drinks" or a "drink machine". I just say can of coke. Something else to wrap your mind around…..:)

Ghosted by MissKitty @ 08/29/2005 10:36 AM EDT


34% (Yankee). You are definitely a Yankee.

Ghosted by cale @ 08/29/2005 11:18 AM EDT


Hey all. Long-time reader, first time poster here.

My roommate and I here in Michigan were discussing the soda/pop issue the other day. It’s definitely pop here (as well as in Iowa where I grew up), but oddly enough, he said there are certain regions in the south where the general term for soft drink is neither soda nor pop, but is in fact called "Pepsi-Mountain Dew". Weird.

Ghosted by Joe P @ 08/29/2005 11:45 AM EDT


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