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08/27/2005: Back from Toronto…

EDIT: Group 013 of The Cereal Prize Project has been posted.

Finally home.  Toronto was great — the city is insanely clean compared to what I'm used to, and the people I was working with refused to believe that it wasn't uncommon for people here to go to a drive-thru fast food joint and just throw their garbage out the window when they were finished scarfing.  Seriously, there wasn't a single piece of trash on the ground anywhere, even at the coveted corners where streets met sidewalks.  Pretty amazing for such a busy city, but maybe I'm just bias, my hometown being a reeking filthhole and all.  A couple of things I learned about Toronto…

1) 10% of the population have at one time starred on Degrassi.
2) All that stuff about "aye" and "oot" isn't a myth.
3) Clamato is very, very well liked.
4) It ain't soda.  It's "pop."
5) You can't buy Marlboro Lights.

The hotel I stayed at was really purdy — the kind of purdy that can only be attained on a business trip where you're not paying.  When I checked in, the front desk lady insisted that one of the hired hands give me a tour of my hotel room.  My basic instincts were crying out for me to tell them that I was in a rush, but they looked so happy about this damn room tour…I had no choice.  So began a fifteen minute exploration of my hotel room — a room that was certainly nice, but in no way, shape or form needing fifteen minutes worth of explanation.  "And here's the switch that opens and closes your curtains."  "And here's the switch that turns on the floor heaters in the bathroom, though those only work in the winter."  "And here's your phone.  And there's your other phone."  "And that's your bed."  "And these are your sheets and blankets.  On top of the bed."  It was endless, and if I'm being honest, I'd drank about fourteen cups of coffee before boarding the plane, and by this point, getting those fourteen cups out of my dick tube before it exploded seemed a lot more important than floor heaters.  I hung in there for as long as I could, finally succumbing and shoving a cash tip in the guy's hand as a very polite way of saying, "GET THE FUCK OUT I NEED TO PISS RIGHT NOW."  He took the hint, but not before reminding me that the room's included mini-bar worked on the "honor system."

Oh, those foolishly trusting Canucks.  I emptied that bitch out and didn't tell a soul.  We'll see how this is reflected on my next credit card bill.

On the final night there, I couldn't help plunging into the hotel's own personal version of LodgeNet, and ended up seeing House of Wax.  You know what?  That's a pretty decent little horror flick, there.  Paris Hilton's role was more for the press releases than the flick; she's a total background character and her role could've been handled by any moderately attractive blonde.  If you're avoiding it for Paris-related reasons, you're cheating yourself.  Granted, I'm prone to like films like this more than the general public, but there wasn't a thing about House of Wax that I really hated.  It goes fast (but not too fast), has a good amount of gore (but not so much that it's reliant on it), and yes, it's actually creepy.  Hell, anything that's based on a Vincent Price classic is hard to fuck up on that front.  Totally worth your time no matter what you've heard.

This is your all-day Saturday thread.  Use it wisely.

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Discussion Thread: 107 comments

First post?

Posted by Julie @ 08/27/2005 11:47 AM EDT


I'm so excited, I never thought I'd make a first post. I don't really have anything else to say, except I love hotel rooms and hotel room amenities. And that curtain switch sounded cool.

Posted by Julie @ 08/27/2005 11:49 AM EDT


4) It ain't soda. It's "pop."

didn't have to go to canada to know that, of course it's pop ;)

Posted by dohopoki @ 08/27/2005 11:56 AM EDT


"Pop" should be reserved for what you do to children's balloons and the kind of "music" that you don't need talent to perform. Come on, if I raved about "orange pop" as much as I do about orange soda I'd sound like a douche. Or, more like a douche.

On another note, "dick tube" is my new favorite phrase of the day.

Posted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 11:59 AM EDT


Well, now I know I could never be a Canadian. You know, not even knowing what Clamato is…

Geez, I guess I'll go cry myself to sleep.

Posted by Kevin @ 08/27/2005 12:05 PM EDT


Most orange I know is called orange soda. I don't go around saying Cream Pop, I say Cream Soda but Cream Soda is a type of pop.

Posted by dohopoki @ 08/27/2005 12:06 PM EDT


I forgot to put this in my last post, but one time, I don't remember the channel, but I was watching this show talking about soda and they asked a whole bunch people whether it was "soda" or "pop."

Then they talk to this one lady from Georgia who tells us that "Down here it's just 'coke.' You say 'I want a coke' and then they say 'what kind of coke?' and you say either a sprite or blah, blah, blah."

Being from Georgia, myself (regrettably) my response is: No. You do that, you idiot. Never have I, or anyone else I know in this state ever said something that stupid. You idiot. Stupid evil jerk.

Sorry, it makes me mad for some reason.

Posted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 12:08 PM EDT


http://www.popvssoda.com/

Look at all those areas that say "coke". I think the pop sayers and the soda sayers can make piece with each other knowing there's an alternative out there for us to make fun of.

Posted by dohopoki @ 08/27/2005 12:12 PM EDT


wow…i think i finished…i thought i read all the articles here…but was dead wrong…the other day when you had the link for the three year thing i found many many more articles…i actually went through them all…if a "next article" link didn't work…i would type in the next consecutive article in the address bar….about three days straight of constant x-e reading…goodtimes man, goodtimes, sincerely

Posted by gerv @ 08/27/2005 12:31 PM EDT


My stance on the "based on a Vincent Price film" is, i'd rather go watch the original. I don't think any film that was based on a Price film was realitively accurate or true to the original. Example is "House on Haunted Hill" had absolutely nothing to do with the original Price film, well a little but the Price version was better by three fold.

Posted by James @ 08/27/2005 12:57 PM EDT


Wyatt, I totally understand your anger. It's always obnoxious when someone from your area does something stupid and makes it seem as if that's what everyone does. My parents live in Georgia and I've never heard any type of exchange like this: "What kind of Coke would you like?" "Sprite." I just want Lewis Black to step in and say something like, "It makes my BRAIN want to EXPLODE!"

I'm from Virginia, so I can sympathize with people representing your area badly. I was watching the news several months ago and there was some sort of city council hearing on something I don't remember. This guy stands up in full redneck gear (in an official city business meeting nonetheles) and tells city council that we need to just get out there and "Git R Done". I hung my head in shame.

Posted by Lori @ 08/27/2005 1:20 PM EDT


Degrassi is my ultimate guilty pleasure.  Shut up, at least Kevin Smith agrees with me!

/runs and hides

Posted by Jeff Mack @ 08/27/2005 1:22 PM EDT


Americans seem to like Toronto, while much of the remainder of Canada (especially here, in Montreal) hate it.

And I concur. Toronto blows. It's mini-usa. Which would be fine if it would make something halfway original, but it doesnt.

Here, you do have some American influence, but also alope of european influence, a hell of alot of French influence. Bottom line, the place is unique, it's got flavor…and the best strip clubs in the world.

Posted by Crocodile Feeling @ 08/27/2005 1:47 PM EDT


I bought a fog machine last night to add to my Hallowe'en stuff, so maybe I'll test it out tonight and summon Ultra-Mega Chicken to peck the heck outta the guy who wrote the program that gave us the long useless post up there.
Arise!
Arise, chicken!

Posted by kingklash, kickin' the fires and lightin' the tires @ 08/27/2005 2:18 PM EDT


It's definitely "pop" here in western NY.  I was at a statewide business convention last month and we got stuck on the "soda" vs "pop" debate.  It seems there's some imaginary line in central NY that divides soda drinkers from pop guzzlers.

Posted by Carri @ 08/27/2005 2:22 PM EDT


It's also "pop" where I live and I'm from Oregon.

Sounds like you had an awesome trip Matt, wish we could have more details about what work you were doing up there, aye?

Posted by Chilipeppers @ 08/27/2005 3:00 PM EDT


Carri:

There's a dividing line in the state.  NYC - Syracuse = soda.  Everything west is pop.

Hailing from Skaneateles, it's DEFINITELY soda.

I went to SUNY Fredonia and soda/pop wars were a daily occurrence.  =)

Posted by Jeff Mack @ 08/27/2005 3:06 PM EDT


Glad you liked Toronto Matt. I like it, but then again I've only been there twice. It's kinda sad too because I'm only 5 hours away from it, although driving there is fucking crazy.

By the way, this may be irrelevant since you're not in Canada anymore, but if you get the station CBC, "The Empire Strikes Back" will be playing tomorrow. The first Star Wars was on last week, but I missed the Sunday thread so I wasn't able to tell ya.

Posted by The Cause @ 08/27/2005 3:10 PM EDT


I'm intrigued with this soda/pop debate.  I've never known it as anything but soda — and perhaps, during a few cutesy instances, "soda pop."  I guess it's an extension of the whole dinner/supper debate.  My family has never called anything they've eaten "supper" ever, even in private, even in their heads.

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 3:18 PM EDT


Paris Hilton is hot and everything (and she can polish a knob like a pro), but I really can't stand the fact that the only occupation that she could ever honestly claim to hold is "celebrity". She's a professional celebrity. She doesn't act. She doesn't sing. She doesn't do anything whatsoever that makes her in any way a remarkable or unique individual. And yet, she has somehow become America's slutty sweetheart. She continually humiliates herself by churning out sex-tapes, showing up drunk at movie premieres and so on, and for this sordid behavior she is celebrated by popular American media. I'm no prude, but I think it's inherently wrong to build one's career by being a spoiled, shameless, illiterate whore. However, none of that would ever deter me from watching a quality horror flick.

On a decidedly less bile-infused note, I'll be going to see "Brothers Grimm" tonight. Critcs have been giving it a hard time, but I learned a long time ago to invest little stock into what professional critics have to say.

Posted by The Yeti @ 08/27/2005 3:25 PM EDT


You misspelled eh!
It's never aye.  Never.  It's eh!

I still don't hear the oot thing people do, but I'll just assume it's my ear, and it does actually exist.

Oh yah, most of Canada hates Toronto becasue it's such a filthy crime ridden hell-hole.

Posted by goblin22 @ 08/27/2005 3:27 PM EDT


Hmm…well, I've certainly seen it written out as "eh" more often than "aye," but it sounds more like "aye" to me.  Can we have a compromise?  Maybe it's just "ay?"

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 3:29 PM EDT


How did it feel crossing the border?  Anything to declare?  Any fruits or vegetables?

Posted by kingklash @ 08/27/2005 4:12 PM EDT


5 Best Things About Toronto:

5)
4)
3)
2)
1) It's Leafs Nation

Posted by Dj Babiuk @ 08/27/2005 4:45 PM EDT


Speaking of Canada, new OLP Tuesday!! Cannot wait. And for the record when I say "eh?" its British/Scottish/Trainspotting not Canadian :P

Posted by Knegatvie @ 08/27/2005 4:47 PM EDT


Many, many people in Rochester would argue against the statement that Syracuse is the dividing line for pop vs soda in NY state.

"Well, you know, I think you'd really like America.  We've got the Liberty Bell, Disneyland on both coasts, it's happening." -Nick Rivers

Posted by Jenno @ 08/27/2005 4:57 PM EDT


So much to comment on…
Although I am not from GA, I live here now and I agree with Wyatt's assessment. If the people want a SPRITE, they say SPRITE. The big thing is that this is COCA-COLA territory (obviously) so it is always Coke, Sprite, Sunkist, but especially COKE.
No one I have ever known has used the term pop. I like the term "soda" but, again, it is usually more brand specific.
KNEGATIVE–I also say "aye" because of TRAINSPOTTING. I think it is an inevitable side effect of repeat viewings. Plus, it is a good thing to say when you don't have a proper rebuttle.
EX: "The machine took my money and I couldn't get my soda pop."
"Aye."
I know of a way to resolve the "eh or aye" debate: Watch the Canadian restaurant scene in GREMLINS 2 with the subtitles on.
ALLISON–Check that last thread for a rebuttle.
MUPPET BABY–I did see THE GOONIES in '85. I just thought we were going to see GHOULIES (Again, last thread for those who are interested i.e. nobody).

Posted by The Manimal @ 08/27/2005 5:07 PM EDT


Paris sings, she's got a song called "screwed".  She was on tv a few months ago, shall I say, plugging her album.  How well she sings is up to you.

I live in coke country.  My dad says pop and people look at him funny.

Posted by Kennef @ 08/27/2005 5:10 PM EDT


Just to add to the soda/pop thread here, in England, apparently, the Lemonade there is carbonated. So, when you ask for lemonade, you get this fizzy yellow stuff.

Toronto can be a slime-hole, but there are points about it too… Strange Brew, one of the greatest movies was filmed there.

Then again, so was Police Academy… seems to balance out :)

Posted by Alpha Centaurian @ 08/27/2005 5:29 PM EDT


Matt,
  I'm pretty sure that rubber Fred Flintstone from the Cereal Prize Project was an eraser.  I remember having several of them in my little red art box when I was a kid.  They lasted at least 6 or 7 years.  They may not have been advertised as erasers, but they damn sure worked like them.

Posted by T.J. @ 08/27/2005 5:37 PM EDT


Reading the instructions on the "Mind Reading Trick" and seeing what a gyp it really is confirms what a lot of people have been saying for quite some time:
All the magic has gone out of Garfield.

Posted by kingklash @ 08/27/2005 6:23 PM EDT


Hey, the Yeti, I've got to agree with you in that I generally find movie reviews useless. Even among my friends I have very odd taste in movies. I maintain that the Village and Signs are two of the coolest movies I ever saw.

On Grimm, it was definitely treated unfairly by the critics. I think they have some stake in reviewing things negatively, because when they cast a dissenting opinion in the negative it doesn't look as bad as it would the other way. That is, the critic who gives King Arthur a good review will look worse than the guy who didn't like Sin City.

However, it wasn't as good as it could be. I wouldn't call it disappointing, as it was definitely worth it, but you just go in expecting so much from it. It's an awesome concept, and Gilliam's a brilliant visual director, but it just kind of slows at some parts. I'd say I enjoyed it overall though. And I very rarely go to movies these days.

But then again, why trust my opinion?

Posted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 6:26 PM EDT


"Pop."  Blurgh.  I've lived in Ohio (a total "pop" state) for over ten years now and I can't bring myself to say the word. I don't much like "soda" either, though.  I grew up in West Virginia, which is not as southern as you think it is, but seems to follow the southern trend of calling every soft drink by its actual brand name.  It works fine except when I need to refer to soft drinks as a general concept.  My mind fuses up because I can't - WON'T - say "pop", but since EVERYONE here says it, it's the first word that comes to mind.  I end up usually gesturing helplessly and inarticulately.  "Pop" really is bad for you.

Posted by gadgetsgirl @ 08/27/2005 6:32 PM EDT


I live 40 miles southwest of Syracuse, NY and it is "soda" here as well. Never heard it called "pop" here in everyday conversations.

Posted by Destro @ 08/27/2005 6:40 PM EDT


we call it soda here as well.. Matt, when will there be another article?

Posted by Jenny @ 08/27/2005 7:21 PM EDT


Since it's Saturday night, and there may or may not be people hanging out here with nothing to do, try this test: http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/yankeetest.html (oh, if only I knew how to link that pretty; so sorry!).

My score was 51% Yankee. And I'm a Florida native, which just justifies the idea that we are clearly not "southern" except geographically. And for the record, we call it soda.

Posted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 7:34 PM EDT


Oops. Probably should've noted that the above test is "Are you a Yankee or a Rebel?" and one of the questions is "What do you call a carbonated beverage" or something like that. See, now there's relevance!

Posted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 7:35 PM EDT


"26% (Yankee). You are a Yankee Doodle Dandy."

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 7:37 PM EDT


Refer to the Bloodhound Gang song "The Ten Coolest Things About New Jersey", just substitute "Toronto"

Posted by Crocodile Feeling @ 08/27/2005 7:40 PM EDT


Welcome back!
I always thought once you got far enough west the debate died…the only people I've ever heard say pop are relatives from Back East.
Clamato is like V8, but with clams. At least that's what French Stewart has led me to believe.
My buddy absolutely hated Brothers Grimm, but I thought it was pretty good. Some of the FX don't work at all, but I think most of the critics have been unfairly harsh. Certain gags/characters did get very tiresome real quick but I was satisfied and I'm not a particularly devoted to Gilliam or Damon or anybody else involved. 
49% (Yankee). Barely in the Yankee category.
Who's watching Rome tomorrow night? I think it's on at the same time as The 4400 season finale…

Posted by squee4242 @ 08/27/2005 7:42 PM EDT


HBO's dirty trick of very intentionally putting a very long Rome promo on at precisely 9 PM before the Six Feet Under finale (where many, many people were sharply tuned in) seems to have worked on me.  I'll be watching.

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 7:47 PM EDT


I wanted to talk about this last week, but I missed it…has anyone ever seen the movie "Pulsebeat"?  I swear, it's the greatest.  Well…in that bad sense of the word.  It's like the "Supercross:  The Movie" of 80s aerobics.

Posted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 7:49 PM EDT


I care Manimal. Goonies rules!

"Pete and I attacked the laws of Astoria" :)

"So long Astoria, I found a map to buried treasure…" :D

Posted by Knegative @ 08/27/2005 7:58 PM EDT


70% Dixie here although I will say that I do say "sneakers" (but it's usually in a John Travolta voice) and in FL we called putting toilet paper on a house "wrapping" which was not one of the choices. Mrs. Manimal calls it "rolling" which is the Southern preference.

Thanks Knegative :)

Posted by The Manimal @ 08/27/2005 8:02 PM EDT


44% Yankee?  Oh well.  I couldn't help but smile when "Devil's Night" resulted in "Very common in Michigan."  Hometown pride for a night of arson and destruction…whoot!  Sidenote:  when I was growing up, Devil's Night was also infamous for being the night on which the TV operators (is that what they're called?) would switch on all of the Pay-Per-View and premium channels for free…resulting in every kid from 6th through 8th grade coming to school the next day with tapes full of softcore porn for trading.  Long live Michigan.

Posted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 8:13 PM EDT


In my town, it was always "Mischief Night."

Mischief Night consisted of the usual — shaving cream, eggs and toilet paper in that order of prominence.  For whatever reason, the toilet paper stuff never hit our neighborhood in a big way.  Shaving cream, however, was everywhere.  We'd all mastered the art of burning the cream-spitting tip in such a way that shaving creme could be shot six or seven feet away.  Eggs were also very common, and also resulting in far more controversial incidents.  I remember crying my eyes out when one of the neighbor bullets pelted me in the chest and stomach with uncracked eggs, which had the potential to sting like hell.  It was a spoken rule that all eggs should be cracked if they were going to be thrown at a person.  Then again, remember this ass as I do, it could've just as well been a golf ball or rock.

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 8:19 PM EDT


Im glad you had fun in T. I wish I could say I enjoy living 10 minutes away from it but I dont. I do admit that we do say eh a lot but the oot thing is not true its the newfoundlanders that say oot!
Im surpirsed you think Toronto is clean, this worries me for when and if I ever go to NY!
What did you think about our Tim Hortons being on every friggin corner??
And I gotta add Degrassi kicks ass, 80s Degrassi anyway, not really the new show, tho it is cool that half the cast is still on there, how I love Joey Jeremiah!! I added his picture to my name just cause:P

Posted by IHAQ @ 08/27/2005 8:32 PM EDT


I have a stupid crush on Craig on Degrassi.  Last night he didn't take his meds and hell broke loose indeed.

Off topic:
Last night I saw Alice Cooper's "Man Behind the Mask" video for F13 Part VI on VHI Classics.  It took be to places I never thought I would go before.  Matt, you should get a hold of it and post it for Halloween Season.

Posted by Jessie Spano @ 08/27/2005 9:08 PM EDT


It was posted during last year's Countdown. :)

Posted by Matt @ 08/27/2005 9:09 PM EDT


39% (Yankee). You are definitely a Yankee.

Born and raised…

in Windsor, Ontario…the most Americanized city outside of the US.

Posted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:18 PM EDT


I just keep drinkin' the memory cells away!

Posted by Jessie Spano @ 08/27/2005 9:18 PM EDT


Here's a link about Clamato.  Any Canadian traveling through the US should order a caeser in a bar and be prepared to be told they don't serve salad…

Posted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:21 PM EDT


I dont know Luthor have you ever met anyone from Fort Erie? I would say Widsor comes pretty close tho.

Posted by IHAQ @ 08/27/2005 9:22 PM EDT


Luthor, do you ever head down to The Loop?  It's the only bar I frequent in Windsor (being near Detroit, I head through the tunnel every now and again).  The best part about going to The Loop is leaving at the end of the night and trying to catch a slice of pizza at Slices before they close.  Then we sit around and stare at the embarrassed patrons leaving Cheetah's.  Ahahahahaha.

Posted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:27 PM EDT


Kyle,

Did my time at the Loop a long time ago.  Back in the day that was a really weird bar.  You'd have a wide and varied group of individuals in that joint.  Jocks to Goths, Stoners to Skinheads.  I'm more of a Coach person now, although I haven't been downtown for a while.

Slices does rule and EVERYONE that has done the downtown scene has(or should have) done the Slices and Cheetahs watch.  Good times.

Just as an aside:

Windsor has the best pizza in the world.  Check it out.

Posted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:31 PM EDT


Yeah…the pizza is delish.  The Loop is essentially the same now…only I don't think I've ever seen skinheads in there.  I really, really love the Slices/Cheetah's thing.  It's the only thing I can think about starting around 12:30 when I'm there.

Posted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:37 PM EDT


Note to anyone wondering what the hell is going on:  Slices is a pizza joint situated immediately next door to Cheetah's (or is it "Cheetahs", as in, multiple cheetah?), a strip club with a not-so-sterling reputation.

Posted by Kyle @ 08/27/2005 9:39 PM EDT


On a random aside, Field of Dreams is on. I'm not that huge a fan (it does tend to go on a bit), but the last thirty minutes or so is guaranteed to make me all teary-eyed. Why is that? I've seen it a million times but it's just so damned moving…

And I was so glad to see squee4242 mention the 4400. Didn't know if anyone else was watching it. I watched the marathon at the beginning of this season and got hooked. There was another marathon today; I wonder how many other people they suckered in!

Posted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 9:42 PM EDT


More to that:
In Ontario, Full Monty is legal.  I read somewhere Windsor is only second to Vegas for most strip joints per capita(in North America).  Add to that the close proximity to Detroit, a legal drinking age of 19 and our downtown can become quite the carnival on weekend nights.

Posted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 9:43 PM EDT


Thanks for the links! I scored 98% Southern, which makes sense since I come from Texas. We actually *do* call everything Coke, there (and we call drink vending machines "coke boxes"), which really confused people when I moved up north a while back.

I live in NW Ohio, and all of the kids at the university here go to Windsor because they can drink there. Hearing the boys talk in low, embarrassed voices about the strip joints on Monday is kind of funny.

Posted by meredith @ 08/27/2005 10:02 PM EDT


purplegirl, that's right about the time I got hooked in too. I finally went out and bought the super cheap season 1 DVD set and spent most of a weekend catching up. I'm pretty excited to see what goes on tomorrow night.
Another show I'm a latecomer to is Lost. I've been watching the summer reruns, but I'm quitting cold turkey and waiting for the DVD before I watch any more eps so I can see them in order.

Posted by squee4242 @ 08/27/2005 10:21 PM EDT


I got 48% Yankee on that test, even though I've lived in the south my whole life. I'm very proud of this. And on the Pop Vs. Soda site, I was saddened to see that my county voted overwhelmingly for "coke." Idiots.

Posted by Wyatt @ 08/27/2005 10:30 PM EDT


Glad ta hear ya liked "Tarana", Matt. And although you may have thought we were clean, we were ALOT cleaner years ago. Like New York in the '70s, we're going through a "rough patch". From a mayor who seemed to have slipped long ago to a mayor with all the charisma of a pinecone, we go downhill more and more everyday. Did you see the CN Tower, world's largest free-standing structure? It looks like it's been patched-up. Our city definitely needs some cleaning-up.

But, fact is, there's a general wave of apathy sweeping the city. I've seen it first-hand - the schools used to have an "earth day" event, where everyone would help clean up the neighbourhood. We used to be praised for our dedication, but last year? Our school had to cancel because only about 5 people expressed any interest in it. Sigh. "Those were the daaaaaays…"

Posted by Road Block @ 08/27/2005 10:47 PM EDT


That's one I don't get…how does Toronto become Tarana(I'd say it's more Turanna)?

Posted by Luthor @ 08/27/2005 11:01 PM EDT


I took that test and scored 41% yankee.  It said most of my answers were biased to the Midwest-Great Lakes and northeast, or common nationwide.  I'm happy with that, because I grew up (and am still living) in most embarrasing state in the country, Arkansas.

Posted by A Man Called Aerodynamics @ 08/27/2005 11:18 PM EDT


Never been outside the US (though I do have Canadian online friends), so I'm just going to say that it's "soda" in southern New Jersey.

Posted by starwenn @ 08/27/2005 11:19 PM EDT


I'm a huge huge huge Degrassi fan. The old show was more novel, but the new one is done well too… or at least the two-parters are… wow were the half-hour episodes bad for a few seasons, and they're still hit-or-miss! Still, Degrassi Junior High and Degrassi High are my favorite guilty pleasures… I'm faithfully buying them on DVD the day they come out.

Actually, I've seriously been considering a trip to Toronto just to see the places it was filmed.

Soda, by the way… in NJ where I grew up, Baltimore where I went to college, and now Boston where I'm in grad school :)

Posted by Vegan Mike @ 08/27/2005 11:30 PM EDT


I've heard good things about Lost and also, Arrested Development. I have so many other things being TIVOd though that I fear adding anything else to the queue will prevent me from leaving my couch at all. TV series on DVD are the greatest invention though–I'll be able to catch up on everything through Blockbuster online!

Ah, how I love technology. Never have to leave the comfort of my own home…wait, does that make me sad??

Posted by purplegirl247 @ 08/27/2005 11:34 PM EDT


In Nebraska everyone calls it pop, at least in Lincoln.  I go back and forth between "soda" and "pop" when speaking, but if I'm writing I always use "soda," as "pop" looks incredibly bizarre when being read.

Posted by Monte @ 08/27/2005 11:54 PM EDT


53% (Dixie). Right on the Mason-Dixon Line

that's the funniest thing I've ever seen…  considering I'm a sunny So. Cal girl all the way…  well, except for the past 5 years as I was living in China and Korea.  but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a So. Cal girl~

Posted by Lazy Girl @ 08/28/2005 1:18 AM EDT


Texan here.  It's Coke.  Even when I mean Dr Pepper.  It's Coke.  "Pop" just sounds strange.  "Soda" is even more bizzarre.

Whenever I hear someone say "soda" or "pop," I know they are not from Texas…

Posted by Cameron T. @ 08/28/2005 1:49 AM EDT


I'm glad that you enjoyed Toronto, Matt- I was hoping to hear about it after you mentioned that you were going there. That was my last vacation destination (I went with a couple of my friends back in March and we had a great time). I, too, found it to be really clean (at least in most areas), but I guess it's pretty easy to look good compared to Detroit. I felt really safe, too, walking around even after dark (and boy did we walk). My friend Mike was freaking out about being in the city, and my friend Mary and I were like "Wow, this is nice." (Especially since we do the Detroit thing for school- and that's the nice part of the city.) So yeah, I'm glad you had a good time.
Also- could anyone tell me what's the deal with Val Kilmer? :)

I took that test, too (40%- Yankee) right before I read Kyle's post about Devil's Night. I was going to post the exact same thing- I smiled at that, too. I was talking to my freshman lab TA a couple of years ago, and he wanted to know all about Devil's Night. Until then, I had no idea that that was uncommon (at least by that name and to that degree).

I almost forgot to check in today- I'm so glad I did.

And Matt- did you get that package I sent you about a month or so ago? I just wanted to check. Thanks.

Posted by Rainbowfeet @ 08/28/2005 2:08 AM EDT


I think the deal with Paris Hilton is that no matter how untalented she is, people (at least the ones that religiously celebrity gossip shows) want to be able to get away with the things she gets away with. They wish to live in slutty houses, drive in slutty cars, and eat only the sluttiest of caviar. Cause, according to her…and many scientific studies…that's hot.

Speaking of Toronto, I've actually never been there but I know that Americans are impressed by its cleanliness. Though, I've noticed Canadians say that Toronto is a dump compared to Vancouver. I guess that makes us unhumanly clean.

Posted by Dr. Acula @ 08/28/2005 3:15 AM EDT


Have you tried Mountain Dew's Pitch Black II yet? This year's has sour bite and is delicously more addicting than last years.

Posted by Clay @ 08/28/2005 3:50 AM EDT


I call it soda. Everybody has something to call it and everybody thinks it's restricted to their region of the world.
Anyways, I crave slutty caviar.

Posted by rebecca @ 08/28/2005 4:47 AM EDT


That's one reason why I could never move to Toronto. I grew up in Montreal, where, if you're speaking English, you usually say "soft drink". I can tolerate "soda", but, if I hear someone say "pop" in a soft drink context, I subconsciously come to the conclusion that the person saying it is less-educated. I know it's probably not a fair assessment, but "pop" just sounds weird.

The British "fizz" is still probably the best generic soft drink term of all.

Posted by Steve Brandon @ 08/28/2005 5:35 AM EDT


Never in my life have I ever heard about people debating over Pop vs Soda. I always thought it was simply called SodaPop!!

Posted by Shortgranite @ 08/28/2005 6:00 AM EDT


IHAQ, that makes me quite happy :)

I'm in Boston, so I order them straight from WGBH… I had my Season 3 a week ago! Now if only Degrassi High would have a release date so I could preorder…

Posted by Vegan Mike @ 08/28/2005 9:34 AM EDT


Tarana, Turanna, Torahna, basically it all comes down to "fuck the second 't'". Sometimes I would like to pronounce NY "Noo Yok", just like my mother pronounces Chicago "Chikaaaajo". Or Noo Joisy.

Posted by Road Block @ 08/28/2005 10:17 AM EDT


Oh, and my brpther's patented "Montry-el", for Montreal.

Posted by Road Block @ 08/28/2005 10:19 AM EDT


Pssst, Vegan Mike click my name :D

Posted by IHAQ @ 08/28/2005 12:09 PM EDT


Here in my backwater little town in Central Maryland its called soda. I've always called it that most people I know do too cept for my neighbor that moved from the south. 

The town I live in isn't of much note but its a 15 minute drive from Frederick MD which is where Fort Detrick the USAMRID base is located. In this day and age its unnerving as hell to live so close to where we keep all the nasty bugs >_<

The city council is a bunch of assholes too heres my favorite example. 

A new parks and recreation head was elected and he came to a meeting to introduce himslef.  He was wearing a hat and didn't take it off when he sat down  one of the board members complained that it was disrespectful and demnaded he take his hat off. The dude said "Why should I the woman 3 seats down from you is wearing hers".  At this point the the councilman went ABSOLUTELY INSANE He flipped out and decided to make a motion that the dude be fired immediately.  When the motion didn't fly he got even more pissed and pulled 35k out of the P&R budget which was eqivalent to a years pay for the position.

Glad I don't actually live in that city.

Posted by The Krypt Angel @ 08/28/2005 12:13 PM EDT


In Philly, it's soda.  I know people call it pop, but I've never actually heard anyone say that.  And I've never heard of the coke thing. 

Here's another thing that might be a local thing.  When we go to bars, we do "kittys".  Everyone in the group throws $20 up on the bar, and the bartender takes the money from the pile as we get drinks.  If it runs out, everyone throws up another $20.  Everyone does it here, but whenever people from out of town go to bars with us, they think it's crazy.  Just wondering if anyone else has never heard of it.

Posted by Y2JB78 @ 08/28/2005 12:27 PM EDT


Hm.  I got exactly 50% ("Barely a Yankee.")  That's what comes of growing up in WV but making a concerted effort to not SOUND like I grew up there.

While in college, a professor once asked me where I came from (don't remember how it came up.)  I asked him to guess and he said "eastern seaboard."  I was delighted, having hoped to obliterate all traces of West Virginny from my accent.  I do, however, speak the lingo and can translate for outsiders if need be.

Posted by gadgetsgirl @ 08/28/2005 12:40 PM EDT


Yes, fricking yes I bitch about a Cereal update and I get one.  Haha oh you're so awesome Matt.

Posted by Nic @ 08/28/2005 12:48 PM EDT


So… I was reading a calendar this morning and found the following entry:  "Supper (pizza, pop, etc.)"

There you go, not only do I officially live in a place where "pop" appears regularly in print, people also apparently use the term "supper."

Posted by Carri @ 08/28/2005 12:54 PM EDT


That test is really fascinating- I was born in MI and moved to NW FL when I was ten, so I knew about a lot of that stuff.  But just like gadgetsgirl I grew up not wanting to sound southern  so I answered w/ the stuff I actually say, despite which I got "61% Southern". 

Another regional bizarrity:  I went on a blind date with a girl I met at the bus stop in Somerville, MA once and she suggested bowling.  We got there and it was this wierd semi-bowling thing with skeeball balls and small pins.  It's called "Candlepin Bowling" and everyone gets at least a spare every time.  Anybody familiar with it?  I wonder how widespread it is.  The girl hated Steely Dan, btw, so it was a total loss.

Posted by consulatsunset @ 08/28/2005 12:55 PM EDT


As for "House of Wax," Hilton is no better or worse than any other actor in such a role would have been.  What surprised me most about the film was the level of gore.  After all the PG-13 horror movies lately, the squishy stuff here was more than welcome, and it makes the flick one of the better Dark Castle pictures.  But I'll never be totally satisfied with that company until they are able to fully immerse me in the William Castle experience, complete with seat-buzzers, skeletons on wires and the Tingler getting loose in the theater.

Posted by Monte @ 08/28/2005 12:56 PM EDT


I can't believe it's sunday after noon and the Soda Pop topic never died.

Posted by Dohopoki @ 08/28/2005 1:30 PM EDT


Consulat- I'm from Boston originally and I've heardof/maybe seen candlepin bowling,but never played.
And we always called it tonic.

Posted by kid nicky @ 08/28/2005 1:57 PM EDT


doesn't tonic just refer to club soda though?

Posted by consulatsunset @ 08/28/2005 2:02 PM EDT


Soda or pop?  How about neither?  I'm from the Deep South and we would just name what we wanted.  "I want Coke" "I want Pepsi", etc.  None of this generalized stuff.  When I moved to New England, everyone calls it "soda".  "Soda Machine".  Although we did call the vending machines "Coke Machines" down there, mostly cos that's what we were looking for. 

Ah and on the test, I am 73% Dixie and proud of it.  Woot.

Posted by Kittycatgirl @ 08/28/2005 2:17 PM EDT


"Soda" the first decade of my life, when my family was in California.  When we came back to the Sooner State, it slowly became "Pop" just to avoid the odd stares in my direction.  57% (Dixie) right on the Mason-Dixon line.  I speak with a Modified Texas/Okie drawl with Left Coast undertones.  At least, that's when I do actually speak.  I get categorized as "one of those quiet ones."  Just studying my prey, folks.  Just studying my prey.

Posted by kingklash @ 08/28/2005 2:54 PM EDT


I say it's soda. It's all ways been soda and will continue to be soda and anyone who calls it coke is an idiot. Perhaps in Georgia instead of soda they serve cocain. And what happened to my previous posts? Did I anger you Matt? I'm SO SORRY! I DIDN'T MEAN IT! MOMMY!

Posted by Darth Poop @ 08/28/2005 3:18 PM EDT


I read online somewhere that "Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers" and "Duck Tales" are going to be released on season sets in November - I think Amazon.com has listings now, though that's all they have.

Posted by starwenn @ 08/28/2005 11:14 PM EDT


Just weighing in…

57% (Dixie). Right on the Mason-Dixon Line.

And here in the St. Louis area, it's Soda.

Posted by bad karma @ 08/29/2005 9:52 AM EDT


I don't understand how most of my answers were "common throughout the US" and yet I'm "66% Dixie". I think it was the Brew-Thru that did me in.

Posted by Lori @ 08/29/2005 9:59 AM EDT


Older people around here (ie: my mom and dad…people around their age) say "a can of drinks" or a "drink machine". I just say can of coke. Something else to wrap your mind around…..:)

Posted by MissKitty @ 08/29/2005 10:36 AM EDT


34% (Yankee). You are definitely a Yankee.

Posted by cale @ 08/29/2005 11:18 AM EDT


Hey all.  Long-time reader, first time poster here.

My roommate and I here in Michigan were discussing the soda/pop issue the other day.  It's definitely pop here (as well as in Iowa where I grew up), but oddly enough, he said there are certain regions in the south where the general term for soft drink is neither soda nor pop, but is in fact called "Pepsi-Mountain Dew".  Weird.

Posted by Joe P @ 08/29/2005 11:45 AM EDT


I live in Colorado, and it's hard to weigh in on the soda/pop debate, because Colorado is a state of transplants.  Apparently no one is born in Colorado; you move here.  Because of that, you get people saying soda, pop, coke, whatever.  Evwerything goes.  It's MADNESS!

Posted by tanta07 @ 08/29/2005 2:28 PM EDT


I live in Seattle, where we call it "Magic Fizzy Sugar Water".  Mmm.  Magic Fizzy Sugar Water.  Coke is Brown Magic Fizzy Sugar Water.  Orange is, uh, Orange Magic Fizzy Sugar Water.  The real trouble comes when you want a Root Beer.

Posted by Chris Martin @ 08/29/2005 3:28 PM EDT


I remember that Hidden Treasures cereal! That stuff was nasty!

Posted by Suren @ 08/29/2005 11:05 PM EDT


Not that anyone cares anymore, but here in my area of Quebec, it's "Pop" and in Korea, Coke and Pepsi were called "cola" and 7UP/Sprite was called "Cider". 

….and Degrassi was AMAZING.  I watched an old episode on tape this morning before going to school to teach my first class.

Posted by Muppet Baby @ 08/30/2005 5:27 PM EDT


Yep, over here in Canada we call it "pop." Also, "candy" bars don't exist — they're called chocolate bars, which makes a whole lot more sense, really.

I think I ate too many "All-dressed" chips…I'm gonna need some Gravol. :)

Posted by A.J. Poirier @ 08/30/2005 11:35 PM EDT


Eastcoast Canada calls it 'pop'.

Now if you will excuse me, I'm about [not a-boot] to get some donair and garlic fingers for supper.  Eh.

Posted by Liquidduck @ 08/31/2005 4:30 AM EDT


In the more civilised land of britain , we refer to soft drinks by the brand name we want. Coke, 7-up, Sprite etc.  What retard would say "soda" or "pop"?

you-  "I want a friggin' soda please" waiter- "what friggin' kind you idiot?"

Posted by geoff @ 09/02/2005 5:56 AM EDT


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