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Alien Vs. Predator + Italian Thumb Wrestling!

Caught Alien Vs. Predator the other night, and wow...seriously, that's the worst flick I've seen in theaters for a loooong while. I've waited a few days before commenting in hopes that the feeling would subside a bit, but nope -- that was one terrible movie. Keep in mind, I'm far from married from either of the franchises at play here. I like them both, but I'm never going to seek out posters or anything. I probably had much lower expectations than most, but the film still somehow failed to come close to the barrel of shit I'd anticipated. First off, the level of exposition in AvP is absurd. It wouldn't be honest for me to say that neither Pred nor Alien did anything for the first half of the movie, but absolutely truthful to say that they did almost nothing. For kill-fodder human characters with such half-assedly defined personalities and motives, they sure spent a lot of time letting us get to know them.

When we finally get to the central battleground -- an ancient pyramid maze buried under ice in a cold penguiny place, the film gets so literally dark that you can't follow anything that's happening. I'm serious -- there's minute-long action stretches where all you see are vague flashes of light and obscured objects moving about. The CG fight scenes down in that pyramid have some cool moments, but they're outweighed by the negatives: in what should be one of the most money money money scenes of the movie -- and you should be able to guess which -- there's long portions where the CG is so dark and haphazard that you're totally taken out of the movie. At one point, the battling monsters seemed to form an almost perfectly spherical, marbleized bowling ball.

You've probably heard about this PG-13 thing, and how the movie was trimmed by the studio to fit that rating. Frankly, for a PG-13 flick, it's still pretty gory and violent. I still heard cursewords, I still saw people impaled, blood splattered and creatures bursting through chests...I'm sure the movie suffered from that greedy late trim, but it just seems impossible that this alone is what caused AvP's problems.

There was a weird "twist" near the movie's climax -- it's probably been the biggest focus of every complaint thrown at the film. I won't spoil it, but only mention it to say that I really didn't mind it. Sure, it was fucking stupid, but at least it was somewhat interesting when compared to the dreck beforehand. More so that anything else, the twist was hilarious. Seems like the filmmakers cut their losses a long time ago on trying to create a film all the diehards would enjoy -- it was the kind of plot development that seemed to almost by design make longtime fans of these franchises hate the story. I wish I could say more, but let's leave it at this: after seeing all of the unintentional comedy provided by that infamous twist, I'm certain that there was a much bigger market for an outright AvP spoof film than the serious effort thrown at us. It's potentially the funniest movie you'll see this year.

Anyway, in celebration of things that should not exist, here's an article on Italian Thumb Wrestling.

Posted by Matt on 08/22/2004. E-mail me!



Discussion Thread: 114 comments

Oh sorry. I was thinking of the 1997 sequel, Mortal Kombat Annihlation, which Anderson had nothing to do with. Got my movies mixed up, sorry. I guess I’ll have to give him the original film too. *grins*

Chestnuts roasted by Number 5 @ 08/23/2004 1:24 PM


Matt, That was the spoiler I was talking about alright.. funny shit!
Now that you’ve done the **SPOILER* thing, I think I will too..

**SPOILER**
The Alien that pops out of the Predator at the end was fricking sweet looking, I hope the Alien/Predator cross-breed is actually used some day.

Chestnuts roasted by Cyanyde @ 08/23/2004 2:05 PM


Woah.. those **’s really mess things up :P

Chestnuts roasted by Cyanyde @ 08/23/2004 2:10 PM


AvP makes you appreciate FvJ a whole lot more. I didn’t like FvJ much on the first viewing, but it’s growing on me. The big real bad complaint is that they spent much too much time and focus on the who-gives-a-shit human characters. That’s going to be a given when dealing with the far less talkative players of AvP; unfortunately, the problems ran much deeper.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/23/2004 2:17 PM


Is the "special twist" that if you give the Aliens a noogie they explode, and nobody knew that? (obscure "Tick" animated series reference)

Chestnuts roasted by Mars @ 08/23/2004 2:18 PM


The only person I knew who actually paid to see this movie was a 15 year old girl who didn’t know what AvP meant, and was curious. No one else cared. So what I’m wondering is……………………… why is this the #1 movie in the country? (Or was, I could be out-dated by now.)

Chestnuts roasted by Meg @ 08/23/2004 2:43 PM


Duh, people, the reason why it sucked is that the main character is a WOMAN, and a BLACK one at that.

No, I’m just kidding. They didn’t need people at all in it, much less ones that overacted their lines (the lead, to name one) and either had bizarre character development or none at all. It’s as if they wrote up backstories for all the characters, covered a donkey’s ass with super glue, and made him sit on random pages.

Chestnuts roasted by Tomas Jefferson @ 08/23/2004 2:54 PM


Well, it’s a weird thing…even though AvP sucks, I still hope it does well so that the general genre stays alive.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/23/2004 2:58 PM


i wanna see 2 hours of nothing but war between the two species. Who gives a shit about humans when you watch AvP? I wanna see them fight dammit.

Chestnuts roasted by zombone @ 08/23/2004 3:07 PM


AvP was crap.
So much crap, in fact, that now I have to take a crap.

Uhm, the italian kinda threw me, but the thumb wrestling was a good concept. I must admit I scrolled down. Did it ever go back to American?

Chestnuts roasted by Barry J. Deeper @ 08/23/2004 3:43 PM


Since the Dark Horse comic days, I’ve heard the A/P hybrid referred to as a Pralien, which sounds more like a candy to me.

Chestnuts roasted by kingklash @ 08/23/2004 5:10 PM


I’m still waiting for the film Alien vs Predator vs Freddy vs Jason vs Mario Vs Donkey Kong vs Batman vs Superman vs Larry Flynt vs Spy vs Spy vs King Hippo vs Earth vs the Flying Saucers vs Godzilla vs Kramer vs Kramer vs the Board of Education.

Chestnuts roasted by Luap @ 08/23/2004 6:46 PM


BTW, Death Metal should take on the Ziploc Finger Man next.

Chestnuts roasted by Luap @ 08/23/2004 6:51 PM


It wasnt all bad. BUT it would have been better if at the end, Miss Sigourney Weaver pulled up in a jeep and saved the african warrior princess and the predator and then Lance Henrikson came back from the dead and then had the millenium group figure out what it all means with a passage from the bible. WOO-HOO!

Chestnuts roasted by BettieBoo @ 08/23/2004 7:24 PM


The movie blew more chunks than a taste tester for caster oil, but I think Firebot’s right. It really does make you think Zerg vs. Protoss. They’re the same!! The whole Zerg horde infestation thing and the hyper advanced civilization of the Protoss.

Chestnuts roasted by SkyCannon @ 08/23/2004 8:07 PM


Yikes, mis ojos, el fuego, el fuego!
Que es eso?!

Chestnuts roasted by Jeep @ 08/23/2004 8:35 PM


Pralien. Uhmm, delicious.

Chestnuts roasted by plsburydoughboy @ 08/23/2004 10:40 PM


You thought it sucked? o.O? Maybe I had a better theatre experience then you did with it, but when I went I enjoyed the movie. ::scratches head:: Maybe it’s also in part to me loving Kenner’s old Aliens VS. Predator toyline from the early 90′s? O.o?

-Boglin

Chestnuts roasted by Boglin @ 08/24/2004 12:53 PM


First there was Freddy Vs. Jason…then there was Alien Vs. Predator…now, for the first time on Earth, two of history’s most bitter enemies will battle to the death on the big screen. It’s…

Ninja Vs. Pirate
Hayabusa takes on Blackbeard in the battle of the century!

Soon to be followed by…

Stewart Vs. Brown
Will Martha triumph over Murphy? Only time (and Warner Brothers) know for sure!

And, to celebrate WWE’s new film division, I’m sure it’s not long before we see…

Katie Vick Vs. Al Wilson
Sparks fly as the undead Katie Vick tries to steal her clothes back from RD Reynolds, only to discover zombie Al Wilson hiding in his closet.

…hey, at least they can’t be any worse than AvP.

Chestnuts roasted by Cid Rain @ 08/24/2004 1:23 AM


Katie Vick Vs. Al Wilson

I read that as

Katie Vick vs. Flip Wilson.

I must go to bed now.

Chestnuts roasted by jordan @ 08/24/2004 3:04 AM


I think the movie was loosly based on different Avp Darkhorse comics… Which made the movie retard in many ways. However, im about to loose my job. so i dont care.

Chestnuts roasted by KBC @ 08/24/2004 5:04 AM


BTW, i didnt pay to see the movie. My neighbour got it off IRC and i simply copied it. hahaha. excellent.

Chestnuts roasted by KBC @ 08/24/2004 5:05 AM


the best part was when they fought Harold and Kumar and had the whitecastle neil patrick harris alien hybrid

Chestnuts roasted by dr mindbender in a speedo @ 08/24/2004 9:21 AM


ideas vs budget?

Chestnuts roasted by kelly @ 08/24/2004 10:51 AM


OK, talk about money grubbing…

Ash vs. Freddy vs. Jason:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/17/film.freddy.reut/

Chestnuts roasted by Cobra Soldier #18 @ 08/24/2004 11:22 AM


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