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08/22/2004: Alien Vs. Predator + Italian Thumb Wrestling!

Caught Alien Vs. Predator the other night, and wow…seriously, that’s the worst flick I’ve seen in theaters for a loooong while. I’ve waited a few days before commenting in hopes that the feeling would subside a bit, but nope — that was one terrible movie. Keep in mind, I’m far from married from either of the franchises at play here. I like them both, but I’m never going to seek out posters or anything. I probably had much lower expectations than most, but the film still somehow failed to come close to the barrel of shit I’d anticipated. First off, the level of exposition in AvP is absurd. It wouldn’t be honest for me to say that neither Pred nor Alien did anything for the first half of the movie, but absolutely truthful to say that they did almost nothing. For kill-fodder human characters with such half-assedly defined personalities and motives, they sure spent a lot of time letting us get to know them.

When we finally get to the central battleground — an ancient pyramid maze buried under ice in a cold penguiny place, the film gets so literally dark that you can’t follow anything that’s happening. I’m serious — there’s minute-long action stretches where all you see are vague flashes of light and obscured objects moving about. The CG fight scenes down in that pyramid have some cool moments, but they’re outweighed by the negatives: in what should be one of the most money money money scenes of the movie — and you should be able to guess which — there’s long portions where the CG is so dark and haphazard that you’re totally taken out of the movie. At one point, the battling monsters seemed to form an almost perfectly spherical, marbleized bowling ball.

You’ve probably heard about this PG-13 thing, and how the movie was trimmed by the studio to fit that rating. Frankly, for a PG-13 flick, it’s still pretty gory and violent. I still heard cursewords, I still saw people impaled, blood splattered and creatures bursting through chests…I’m sure the movie suffered from that greedy late trim, but it just seems impossible that this alone is what caused AvP’s problems.

There was a weird “twist” near the movie’s climax — it’s probably been the biggest focus of every complaint thrown at the film. I won’t spoil it, but only mention it to say that I really didn’t mind it. Sure, it was fucking stupid, but at least it was somewhat interesting when compared to the dreck beforehand. More so that anything else, the twist was hilarious. Seems like the filmmakers cut their losses a long time ago on trying to create a film all the diehards would enjoy — it was the kind of plot development that seemed to almost by design make longtime fans of these franchises hate the story. I wish I could say more, but let’s leave it at this: after seeing all of the unintentional comedy provided by that infamous twist, I’m certain that there was a much bigger market for an outright AvP spoof film than the serious effort thrown at us. It’s potentially the funniest movie you’ll see this year.

Anyway, in celebration of things that should not exist, here’s an article on Italian Thumb Wrestling.

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Damdned I was looking forward to that film.
I mean, its got Aliens, its got Predators what could possibly have gone wrong?

Looks like I’m going ot to rent SotD. I need good horror, and this summer jsut doesn’t seem to be cutting it, for the most part.

Saw this one about a week ago, I was looking forward to it for *months* and to put it nicely, the movie sucked hairy elephant ass!

In my very humble de-dumble opinion, the only parts worth watching were roughly the last third of the movie.. approximately 1/2 an hour, and a few bits in the middle.
That’s right folks; the movie weighs in at a mere 1.5 hours!

As far as the "plot twist" you were talking about, Matt, I actually rather liked it. Definitely worth the few laughs it provided.

All in all a terrible disappointment and an immense waste of time, money and film..
I wonder if we could sue the studio for the time wasted watching this mess?

To think you’ve seen everything and then….there’s Italian thumb wrestling. I was always a big fan of Pro Wrestling for the NES. I feel sorry for any chump who used Fighter Hyabusa for his special move, the "back brain kick", never worked. Another move that never worked was Kin Corn Karn’s Mongolian Chop. I always thought it was funny the the Amazon got away with illegal moves like the Outlaw Choke and the ever gory Face Bite. Who said Nintendo was soft on violence? Apparently in 1986 for a split second they thought it was cool.

Well, im a huge fan of both Aliens and Predators and I thought it was actually pretty cool. The fact that its a sequel to the predator movies and a prequel to the alien movies and how it was completely tied into the ‘weyland discovery’ I thought was pretty well done. For all the bad movies matt’s judged, im suprised he disliked this one so much.

I was intrigued by the thumb wrestling, it seems to make more sense than a couple of naked horrible actors grabbing and throwing eachother.

Yes! I love thumb wrastlin’. And I haven’t seen a movie in 2 months! Go Terps!

I actually had a pretty good time watching the film. Wasn’t perfect, but it gave me what I wanted, and kept me pretty damn entertained.

AvP was meh. It could have been better but I think it could have been worse. As far as ITW…a delight?

The guy in the monkey mask giving some commentary was what sold the whole article for me ^_~

This article places you in my "definitely insane" book, Matt. Not that that’s a bad thing at all.

I was wise enough to dismiss AvP as crap the moment I saw the trailer, and I have no plans to see it. Smart me. (Can someone post the plot twist, though?)

The "twist" is that the sole surviving human (the main character, duh) teams up with the last remaining Predator in a tag team effort against the Aliens — it’s cheesy and borderline romantic. Some of the scenes involved in this are absolutely priceless. Others just suck.

I thought he was talking about the twist where Jesse the body Ventura and Bill Paxton show up with Segorney Weaver to kill everyone, and make the audience swear they’ll deny they ever saw the movie.

What? This is crazy talk. This film is clearly the best love story in recent history. It blows "Titanic" right out of the water.

If you listen really hard, you can hear Baby Jesus crying because of that movie.

Yeah, I saw it. It was hilarious from beginning to end. The best thing about the twist was that the line they use for it ("the enemy is my enemy is my friend") is about as trite as it gets. ALSO, they make it sound like they invented that line. There were some good parts but not 7 dollars worth.

Thought this might amuse you Matt. bea arther wrestling with a raptor. Just…amazing.

Yeah, anyone else have flashbacks to a very extreme close-up on Dick Tracy during the "enemy is my enemy my friend is my blah" part?

HOLY CRAP! 10 bucks for a movie ticket!!!??? Thankfully I get student discounts tickets for only 5 bucks. Even then, I’ve never paid more than 8 dollars for a movie seat….

Great job on the Italian Thumb Wrestling, Matt.
Finally, those five years of Italian pay off! (Sort of.)

WTF, you’ve finally lost your mind Matt. On the thumb wrestling, not the movie.

I still don’t see how you can screw AvP up that badly. I’ve been a fan of both franchises since I was, like, 8 (so that’s 11 years) and I know for a fact that there are some damn good things that could have been done with that premise. But instead, Anderson took some of the cool things from the comics, stripped them of all the stuff that made them cool, and gave us a gigantic cheeseball.

Maybe the 40 minutes or whatever that was cut out has some unbelievably awesome moments in them. Maybe the characters get less annoying, maybe there’s a fight scene you can actually see, maybe all the plot-holes are taken out. Either way, you’ll have to wait for months to get the Director’s Cut. Just skip the theaters and rent the D-C version. Or play the computer game.

Cheap Seats now has a site with clips. I would recommend the "1994 World Series of Poker" and NICHOLAS JENNER (Nick Swardson) clips. You might recognize Nick Swardson from his stand-up or his recurring role as the roller skating gay prostitute on "Reno 911." The other guests are also familar faces from various stand-up and comedy shows.

Ooh, Burt Reynolds as the crazy mountain man? Does he make Seth squeal like a pig? I’m there!

If you’ve never seen "Thumb Wars" or "Thumbtanic", might I recommend it to those here who found this thumb wrastlin, um, "article?" entertaining. I do believe they are out on DVD now. I think there’s still a website for em, but I can’t link it cause I’m at work and it’s blocked.
Interesting article Matt. I have no idea what happened, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

It’s obvious what happened. The announcer spoke Italian for a few minutes, then switched to english once the match started. Proud Pixie sucks, so Death Metal Maniac beat him easily and won 12 pigs.

Yeah, AvP what a giant "ass bomb" of a flick. Hands down one of the worst flicks of the year…

Didn’t it seem odd that the preds went uncloaked for the majority of the film? WTF is with that…

Well, the aliens can see the predators if they’re cloaked so it doesn’t really matter.

The thing I had a problem with was how fast the aliens hatched/chestbursted/grew up. Plus the fact that there were more aliens than there were humans, so obviously the aliens used penguins as hosts.

even though, those pretty thumbs look like they have done a honest day’s work ever, they are still very sexy thumbs

ITW is definate proof that idle hands are the Devil’s merry-go-round. And Matt has one of those ride all day bracelets.

Walking into the "AVP" movie I really didn’t expect much but I have to agree with Matt, It got worst toward the end. It started off like it would’ve been an alright movie but then it got really slow and ended fast, and the whole scene in the last 30 minutes was just cheesey. To me the movie kinda ranked up there with "Alien Reserection".

Still better than that Bradshaw/Taker match at SS. Oh, and what’s Death Metal’s no-selling? Was he trained by Hogan?

Yeah, skip AvP and see Without a Paddle. It is freakin’ hilarious. Seth Green plays such a great tightass, and it is funny to see Burt Reynolds as a crazy mountain man. Seriously, it’s definately worth the movie ticket.

I don’t know why people hate this film so much. I wasn’t expecting a lot out of it, but I still kinda enjoyed it for what it was. I knew deep down that this was just gonna be some shod-job attempt to finally make the film, that the studio rushed them through to ride on the success of last year’s Freddy VS. Jason.

Plus, you gotta remember this is Paul WS Anderson we’re talking about, the guy who directed Mortal Kombat, and Resident evil. They should not have picked this guy to direct it, because this guy cannot create deep and interesting action/horror films. He makes superficial cheesy crap, IMO, with the possible exception of Event Horizon.

I am going to have to check out this R rated directors cut they’re supposedly releasing on DVD in the future. I think making them go PG-13 was a bad move, and a lot of stuff was probably cut because of it.

Yeah Trajeal, there are many many times when Seth Green squeals. And I agree, Matt. Mortal Kombat was awesome.

Oh sorry. I was thinking of the 1997 sequel, Mortal Kombat Annihlation, which Anderson had nothing to do with. Got my movies mixed up, sorry. I guess I’ll have to give him the original film too. *grins*

Matt, That was the spoiler I was talking about alright.. funny shit!
Now that you’ve done the **SPOILER* thing, I think I will too..

**SPOILER**
The Alien that pops out of the Predator at the end was fricking sweet looking, I hope the Alien/Predator cross-breed is actually used some day.

AvP makes you appreciate FvJ a whole lot more. I didn’t like FvJ much on the first viewing, but it’s growing on me. The big real bad complaint is that they spent much too much time and focus on the who-gives-a-shit human characters. That’s going to be a given when dealing with the far less talkative players of AvP; unfortunately, the problems ran much deeper.

Is the "special twist" that if you give the Aliens a noogie they explode, and nobody knew that? (obscure "Tick" animated series reference)

The only person I knew who actually paid to see this movie was a 15 year old girl who didn’t know what AvP meant, and was curious. No one else cared. So what I’m wondering is……………………… why is this the #1 movie in the country? (Or was, I could be out-dated by now.)

Duh, people, the reason why it sucked is that the main character is a WOMAN, and a BLACK one at that.

No, I’m just kidding. They didn’t need people at all in it, much less ones that overacted their lines (the lead, to name one) and either had bizarre character development or none at all. It’s as if they wrote up backstories for all the characters, covered a donkey’s ass with super glue, and made him sit on random pages.

Well, it’s a weird thing…even though AvP sucks, I still hope it does well so that the general genre stays alive.

i wanna see 2 hours of nothing but war between the two species. Who gives a shit about humans when you watch AvP? I wanna see them fight dammit.

Uhm, the italian kinda threw me, but the thumb wrestling was a good concept. I must admit I scrolled down. Did it ever go back to American?

Since the Dark Horse comic days, I’ve heard the A/P hybrid referred to as a Pralien, which sounds more like a candy to me.

I’m still waiting for the film Alien vs Predator vs Freddy vs Jason vs Mario Vs Donkey Kong vs Batman vs Superman vs Larry Flynt vs Spy vs Spy vs King Hippo vs Earth vs the Flying Saucers vs Godzilla vs Kramer vs Kramer vs the Board of Education.

It wasnt all bad. BUT it would have been better if at the end, Miss Sigourney Weaver pulled up in a jeep and saved the african warrior princess and the predator and then Lance Henrikson came back from the dead and then had the millenium group figure out what it all means with a passage from the bible. WOO-HOO!

The movie blew more chunks than a taste tester for caster oil, but I think Firebot’s right. It really does make you think Zerg vs. Protoss. They’re the same!! The whole Zerg horde infestation thing and the hyper advanced civilization of the Protoss.

First there was Freddy Vs. Jason…then there was Alien Vs. Predator…now, for the first time on Earth, two of history’s most bitter enemies will battle to the death on the big screen. It’s…

Stewart Vs. Brown
Will Martha triumph over Murphy? Only time (and Warner Brothers) know for sure!

And, to celebrate WWE’s new film division, I’m sure it’s not long before we see…

Katie Vick Vs. Al Wilson
Sparks fly as the undead Katie Vick tries to steal her clothes back from RD Reynolds, only to discover zombie Al Wilson hiding in his closet.

I think the movie was loosly based on different Avp Darkhorse comics… Which made the movie retard in many ways. However, im about to loose my job. so i dont care.

BTW, i didnt pay to see the movie. My neighbour got it off IRC and i simply copied it. hahaha. excellent.

the best part was when they fought Harold and Kumar and had the whitecastle neil patrick harris alien hybrid

You thought it sucked? o.O? Maybe I had a better theatre experience then you did with it, but when I went I enjoyed the movie. ::scratches head:: Maybe it’s also in part to me loving Kenner’s old Aliens VS. Predator toyline from the early 90’s? O.o?

For AvP my expectations were so low that i was able to enjoy the movie. Basically its what I expected, although the bits of comedy provided were a nice touch. There were also a few cool moments.

There was one shot during the flashback scene that i liked. Where a Predator is holding up his spear with an Alien head on it while a ship flys over head. It just looked really cool.

Too bad the movie sucked. It seems this was one franchise which could have benefited more if the writer came up with new material instead of trying to squeeze in stuff from the comcic (compared to, you know, abortions like Batman and Robin or LXG). Glad I didn’t watch it. Oh, and don’t worry Matt, I liked Mortal Kombat too! (seriously, Cary Hiroyuki Tagawa rules too much)

Seriously, they should make it up to all of us by releasing an official statement apologizing for hiring Paul Anderson. Oh, oh , and they should release a candy bar shaped up to look like, uhm, you know. That’s gonna be my new favorite food/toy, next to Undertaker Ice Cream.

I love the Alien movies, but am ashamed to admit I have never seen Predator….therefore, I decided I can’t see this movie until I watch Predator. Now, I don’t know if I want to though…

I saw a bootleg copy of the Avp premiere taped in a movie theater, and listening too all the die hard fans clap, laugh and ooh n ahh throughout the movie sortof helped the whole experience a bit. Its funny how we people work in crouds, one person laughs, we all laugh. God.. are we really like sheep?

Go rent both predator movies. theyre worth it. And if you look closely enough in Predator 2 youll see an alien skull aboard the Predator ship.
Perhaps that one scene connected the two monsters that made them what they are today??? ehh.. bitter enemies.

Bite me, plsburydoughboy! LXG kicked seven kinds of ass. Anyway, I felt that the stupid plotline can be forgiven, if only somebody would explain to me why that chick’s arm didn’t melt off when she stuck it in that alien’s head. And why the Predator, who had to have known he was impregnated, decided not to commit nuclear hari kari, but to try to save his own pansy ass by dropping his gauntlet and heading for the surface, thereby endangering our entire race, and potentially his own as well.

I saw LXG on the plane twice and LXG stunk up the place, I cannot belive anyone like that movie. Freddy vs Jason was alright and it got bad reviews so I thought to myself after reading the reviews for AVP that maybe just maybe Aliens vs Predator would be just as good but I was wrong. I’m not saying that AVP was the worst movie ever for example LXG, AVP was just okay.

Dude, Matt, do a review of that episode of Sliders where they go to Amish World and find that Colin dude!

Darc_humor: The Bishop/Weyland Connection was made in alien 3, He shows up to try to give Ripley a "Friendly face" so she’ll forget about saving the human race and give him her lol bundle o’ joy..

Aside: Im assuming the Weyland that was in AvP was a great grand pappy to the Weyland who actually knows about the Aliens and is, you know.. alive in the Alien movies!

"The answer to why Aliens attacked the incubated predator was that the alien inside the Predator was not sanctified by the Aliens because it was essentially a different species due to the DNA reflex the Alien’s possess. Okay, I guess I could go with that. "

I will, in Alien 3 the Alien that was running around came from a dog, so that arguement is already contradicted.

Though in fairness, they said in Alien 3 that then Alien didn’t attack because Ripley was infected by a Queen, the Predator wasn’t. Still, what a dolt.

I am willing to belive the studio are to blame though, as I did like Resident Evil.

Maybe they will go the Evil Dead route and remake A v P into an actual horror spoof that turns out to be pretty kick ass. While we’re melding sci-fi and horror flicks as of late anyway, let’s throw Ash in there. A v P v A, one of the A’s have bleed acid, the other is armed with a chainsaw and witty catchphrases.

This is for you bad reviewers and critics, expecting something godsent…Paul W.S. Anderson is a friggin idiot…nuff said…now to revew the movie.

I loved this movie, mainly because I wasnt expecting anything on some grand level like most people were. They were like, "I rather it be like this, how about like that? or What is the point of this movie?" You see, you have to know the material, as I’ve taken the time to read many reviews online…most just DONT get it. Why? Because they rather use derogatory lingo for the things they arent familiar with from the movies or novels…or just dont care enough to REMEMBER it. I have been waiting for 14yrs for this friggin movie and it was NOT what I expected it to be…lets just say it was on par with my expectations…sorry folks, you wont get a hole in one rating from me.

I will go over things step by step to how this movie…in a Paul W.S. Anderson way…to how it works…

The movie wasnt even 2hrs…but it seemed that long to me. My brain was on RECORD when the fight first started and it was great. I’m REALLY tired at how people are comparing FvJ (Freddy Vs. Jason) to it…ya, people wanted THOSE kind of fight scenes like that were TOTAL crap…ya, the ones that last for god knows how long, end of story. The fight was short and sweet, THATS IT!

Now for for the Predator….the predator is the greatest warrior race in the galaxy in the movies…they killed armed humans because they pose as a challenge to them. A lot of people assume preds hate our race but that is totally untrue…your armed, and ready to combat…you are one dead fucker. Certain exceptions are allowable, such as pregnancy or disease…this would not prove a worthy challenge…and DONT dare a pred after it has sparred you if you value your life…or however long you HAVE left, or whatever. Preds DO give gifts as a sign of courtesy for ones true bravery in battle…Danny Glover recieved that old 1700’s gun from the leader of the ship after killing that pred. You see, the predator considers the alien to be one of the most deadly alien species EVER concieved. The Space Jockey race created the Alien species, but it grew beyond their control. But damn…this woman helped defeat a QUEEN! Only the greatest clan leaders of the predators have ever been able to defeat one…she did this and was presented a spear…kinda wish he offered her a role as a warrior…but no…that was just gay that they didnt. You see, preds, on ocasion, have alien hunts on other worlds (this contradicts the temple thing in AVP and kinda sucks). But like, they’ed have a way to gain access to eggs or locate a planet with aliens on them and go for the hunt. Either way, they have ‘bug’ hunts.

But oh well, I need to touch on this movie…lesse…the humans really fucked up…the three preds were ‘the chosen’ and were destined to get to their shoulder cannons in the temple…but the humans screwed it all up and basically its chaos and pandemonium inwhich Paul W.S. Anderson screws up AGAIN…except he focuses less on the Aliens and Predators but more on the human characters that have NO story…except Lance Henriksons watered down role he was given…and the man is a GREAT actor too….DAMN YOU PAUL W.S. ANDERSON! But overall, I loved the movie…got to see some predator ritual with the marking of blood on their chest and forehead…even tho it WAS acid blood he did this with, still doesnt take away the fact he is a great warrior. I loved how the few scenes the preds and aliens WERE shown…that they were made in a magical sort of way…and were kept in spirit from the previous movies and of the novels.

The PG-13 rating was B O G U S! I mean, not only does it attract n00bs that probably have NO idea WTF is going on, but its kinda a slap in the face to the more mature audiences that have grown up with its friendly R rating from the previous films. But I’m a very flexable movie viewer and unless ONE thing is SOOOOOOO contradicting (like the aliens behavior in Alien Resurrection) I’m gonna hate this movie for TEH REST OF MAH LIFE! Worst movie ever HAS to be Starship Troopers 2…but that is SOOOOOOOOO a different story.

ACTION- 3 out of 5: Quick and sweet, and to the point…who wants a drawn out battle like FvJ (Freddy Vs. Jason)? It wasnt the greatest coreography, but it was decent enough to move the events along. I LOVED the friggin battle between 3 preds and roughly 1000 aliens in the back drop story that is comparable to the novels in that respect…dont confuse the movies story with the backdrop story…PLEASE!

MUSIC- 1 out of 5: It REALLY was bad…it was SOOOO faint that you could barely hear it! and what you DID hear was NOT typical of the Alien and Predator franchises.

STORY- 0 out of 5: this is the WORST feature of this movie…I mean, the only good thing established were what have been seen in the previous movies and novels about the aliens and predators….THATS IT!

So you see, I went into the movie not expecting much…expected another episode like Paul W.S. Andersons Resident Evil movie with the HORRIBLE zombies that acted like some pack of starving wolves, that popped up EVERYWHERE the characters would be….but talking about this movie, is a different story, LOL….but the AVP storyline was cheesy as a smelly block of limburger cheese, but the movie entertained me and that is what matters..aaaaaaw, I love eyecandy like the preds and aliens, lol. I am just finally excited that the movie was FINALLY made!

You are right, It did attrackt n00bs. I went and saw it, and it gave me enough intrest to buy the old Predator and Alien movies. So, it has helped new people get an intrest in the franchises.

I dont know if this got covered, but manimal789 misquoted stating "the enemy is my enemy is my friend". The quote is actually "The enemy OF my enemy is my friend", sort of like if we hated germany, but we also hated russia, but we teamed up with Russia to take down Germany. Get it?

Yeah, I actually convinced a dude I chat to start liking it…he thought it was uber gay with her and the predator at the end…alot of people just dont understand "The Way of the Warrior" and stuff, lol. But he’s starting to like the two franchises and has rented P1, P2 and A1 recently.

BTW, the main thing that I dislike, is when critics and reviewers name the whole fan population then say they are all disappointed and what not…and believe me…the fan base is friggin huge…so I HAVE to point out that not everyone things its crap.

Me and my friends almost watched it, but for the $9 that damn mall theatre charges you, we decided to see a good movie so we saw Harold and Kumar Go To Whitecastle again. Damn good movie.
One question… We’ve seen Freddy Vs. Jason, AvP… Why not a movie with the charachters from Blade and Resident Evil games squareing off? That’d be neat to watch.

Random "Rock n’ Wrestling" stickerbook album sticker description quote of the day:

121. Captain Lou’s fresh veggie burgers! "Step right up and get ‘em while there hot!" Does Captain Lou Albano have french fries to got with that burger?

I, actually, thought it was an ok film, but I don’t watch films like these for plot, I watch it for the monsters. The visuals when the action finally started off were alright, I especially liked the sequence at the end
*Spoilers*
When the alien queen broke out of the ice, that was the second coolest thing in a movie I have seen so far (apart from doc ock’s arms). When they made the movie, they knew this scene was the most important, as far as visuals go, and they nailed it. I always wondered how it would look if we actually got to see it moving around (apart from the smoke and static poses of Aliens) and I thought it was quite nice. It strode around like a T-Rex. I also liked the fact that the Aliens used thier tails alot more than in other movies, lets just hope the next Aliens film is better.
I saw a "making of" feature that explains why the Preds came to earth, said something about those predators were on a "rite of passage", and if they survived they were granted warriorhood. Thats why the queen was woken up, as a training ground.
I knew the plot was going to be shot to hell the moment I heard about it, but I liked the visuals.

For Cyanide: I might be recalling this incorrectly, but wasn’t the "Weyland" who showed up in Alien 3 actually another android? I seem to recall him getting smacked in the head, and seeing robot-type-bits underneath the skin… More lies from THE COMPANY.

I’d pay to see to Katie Vick vs Al Wilson way more than Randy O-tron and Hunter Hearst McMahon anyday.

funny. i was actually just wondering "I wonder if theres anything up on X-E regarding alien versus predator?". Matt, you never let me down.

i just saw it a few nights ago, and agree that it was horrible. horrible to the point where i couldnt even laugh at a lot of it because i had no idea what the hell i was laughing at.

Hmmmm….. AvP blew. Then again so did Predator 2, Alien 4 ,and Alien 3 was alright (do to Fincher’s cinematography). My opinon is based off reading the first comic mini-series of Aliens, Predator, and AvP (note on all three the first of the mini-series not the crap that fallowed) before the movies were made. If you thought Alien 3 and Predator 2 should have been what the comic books were, then you will be dissapointed with AvP. I opolgize for my crappy spelling, I use to read comic books what do you expect?

Number 5, you were wondering why people are so pissed about AvP. Its because so many of us really loved the Aliens 1 & 2 and Preadator movies. Aliens is still my favorite movie of all time. And there have been so many great AvP stories that Dark Horse produced "Superman vs Aliens" not withstanding. In the right hands (James Cameron (I know i’m dreaming )) it could have been one af the greatest flicks of both the franchises. I haven’t even seen the movie yet and im pissed. I have been eagerly waiting for this movie for like 8 years. when i heard that Paul Anderson was directing i started to worry. When i read online the basic premise was that Aliens were being kept on earth for centuries before the first Alien movie i was furious. The whole point of all the damn Aliens movies was preventing Aliens from ever getting loose on earth. And that A-hole Anderson just goes ahead and lets them loose on Antartica without pause. Its that disrespect for the material that so many of us love that pisses us off. How hard can a movie like this be? Ill probably see it once but probably i wont buy the damn dvd if it sucks as much as i think it will. Thats more money out of the studios pockets because they cant seem to hire talent who have respect for the material.

I could go along with that, but no one besides the lead survived to tell anyone. So I could understand if the planet was oblivious to Aliens already being on Earth.

IMO, it wasn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be. The basic premise was AvP and there were enough scenes of that to make up for the inane plot. Hopefully, the driector’s cut will provide a fuller vision of the film and make it more palatable to critics. That or a sequel (and you know there will be one).

Hi there Earth, Neil Armstrong here. Bet you haven’t heard from me in a while, have you? Well, I’ll tell you why. It’s because I’m still on the fucking moon! You bastards left me up here thirty five years ago. Why, I’ve probably lost billions in talk show circuits and lecture tours. Godammit.

Shawn of the dead, was the best horror movie of the year, by far. Was there any doubt that AvP wouldn’t suck? But, as a fan I feel obliged to go see all Spider-men and x-men and hellboys. C’mon 20 years ago, driving home from a comiccon who wouldn’t have the "who would be the best actor toplay Wolverine" type convo. We have to support these stupid movies and then blast them apart afterwords. I just hope someone listens. They keep making Wayans spoofs, so hollywood is willing to spend money on anything. I’m still gonna go see AvP, god help me!

This just goes to prove, when it comes to finger-wrestling, Matt’s all thumbs.

JC da King: I thought it was the actual Weyland in A3, I too could be wrong though, did you dig out your copy of Alien 3?
Im assuming *this* Weyland was a forefather of the one from the Alien movies, he just opened the door for the whole Alien series, kinda like a prequel.

There were way too many Aliens running around to all have incubating in humans…

i liked that movie dude because i like gore damnit all the blood was good! well yeah it was good!

Hi Matt! Loyal follower of your site…from Italy!
Signor Caracappa, your italian quite frankly, sucks ( maybe my english too..

), but once again, you have surprised me. It was totally, hysterically nonsensical AND fun. Favorite site ever, since the gay Rambo….I mean, the ULTIMATE WARRIOR costume post. Hai chiaramente usato Altavista, ma sei un mito lo stesso.

Ah, just an Alien Vs Predator question. Is Raoul Bova laughably bad in this flick as he is in almost EVERY italian movie he made so far?

Here in Italy he is regarded as some sort of sex-symbol, but little else. He’s our Keanu Reeves…as far as "acting" goes, that is.

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