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The Ecto Cooler Saga CONTINUES…

I promise, this is the last time I'll ever write about Ecto Cooler. Bear with me. I'm obsessed.

You might remember this post from late June, where I mentioned Hi-C's "Orange Lavaburst" flavor as being a reincarnated Ecto Cooler. I didn't solve the mystery myself, but after repeatedly reading fans' cries, I gave the fruity juice a shot and agreed. From where I sat -- in a broken chair littered with cig burns and what appeared to be nail polish -- Orange Lavaburst was Ecto Cooler. Or was it?

For those who've forgotten, "Ecto Cooler" was a Hi-C juice brand with Slimer of The Real Ghostbusters fame on the box. Though Hi-C has gotten a bit wackier with their flavor names over the years, Ecto Cooler was the first "novelty" drink in the line. Kids went nuts for the shit. This was a fad that transcended our usual young geeky interests, as children didn't really have to be into toys or cartoons to get down with the Ecto. Regardless of what you felt about Ghostbusters, few were going to skip the one juice box with a mysteriously vague name and a green monster on the box.

The beverage outlived all other Ghostbusters novelties, delivering Slimer to a generation of kids who'd barely even heard of his offshoot cartoon. Unfortunately, like Chris Elliot sitcoms and "Quackers" snack crackers, all good things come to an end. Ecto Cooler eventually disappeared, leaving behind a legion of fans who weren't quite ready to give up a taste they'd inadvertently become addicted to. We bought the juice because of Slimer, but somewhere along the way, we got hooked on the flavor.

That's where it gets interesting...

I claimed that "Orange Lavaburst" was Ecto Cooler Version II, and many seemed to agree. Others were skeptical, and with good reason. They argued that Ecto Cooler was back, but not as Orange Lavaburst. No, if these naysayers were to be believed, Ecto Cooler was reborn as an entirely different brand of Hi-C juice. Today, we experiment to uncover the truth. Which current Hi-C flavor is really Ecto Cooler?

According to some, "Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen" is the new Ecto Cooler. Their many arguments include the following:

1) Shoutin' Tangergreen has a strong emphasis on...well, "green." Ostensibly, "green" equals "Slimer."

2) Many remember Ecto Cooler as having "tangerine" as part of the flavor cornucopia. Shoutin' Tangergreen shares that trait, Orange Lavaburst does not. :P

3) Lavaburst's "box icon" is a simple orange. Tangergreen's icon is a ghastly, deep green "mouth." Obviously, green mouths seem more in tune with Slimer than a silly orange.

Admittedly, I seem to recall viewing a few Ecto Cooler ads in print that played up the citrus mix of oranges and tangerines. This factored with the new flavor's "green scheme" painted my previous posts as efforts in STUPAD IGNORAAAACE, but hey, let's find out for sure this time. Here's the listed ingredients for both flavors, with the differences highlighted in bold...

Orange Lavaburst: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange And Tangerine Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

So, what have we established? Aside from a modicum of tangerine juice, they're exactly the same. I refuse to accept that the key to this mystery lies solely in a vial of concentrated tangerine juice, so our champion remains undetermined. Perhaps it's time we compared each flavor's color. If there's one thing people seem to remember about Ecto Cooler, it's the unmistakable neon green hue...

Hmmmm -- virtually no difference at all. In fact, I can't honestly say if Ecto Cooler itself was green. The ads certainly suggested that, but edibles are often "dolled up" for those campaigns. Plus, I've seen firsthand that even the truly "colored" Hi-C flavors lose their sheen after a given amount of time. To avoid staining rugs and clothes, Minute Maid never added the type of food dyes you've grown accustomed to with something like, say, M&Ms. The tint is almost always natural these days, and though I can't prove it, it's possible that Ecto Cooler was only "green" in our Father Time-sweetened memories. Or was it?! Again?!

The Star Trek Connection?

While I'll solemnly admit to spending a little too much time searching for information regarding the Juice in Question, my findings were few and far between. I've been doing this site for a long time, and I don't think many readers would deny that I've probably spent more time researching "that" generation's fads than most people. During my travels, I've learned that there's a tribute for just about anything. Even the truly obscure stuff usually has some free-hosted, five-year-old tribute if you look hard enough. Yet, there's very, very little about Ecto Cooler. Plus, the people who have written about it contradict each other with misshapen and sometimes incorrect recollections. For a fruit juice, there's a lot of intrigue attached to good ol' Ecto. I did find one trivia nugget, though:

In "Relics," an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, there's a futuristic cocktail known as "Aldebaran Whiskey." If the rumors are true, they used Ecto Cooler as a prop to illustrate the whiskey's green hue.

A ha! So it was green after all! You know what this means, right? Even if Shoutin' Tangergreen or Orange Lavaburst perfectly mimic Slimer's sludge in taste, neither are true clones. As you can see in the above pic, they're both pale piss yellow.

But which of the two comes the closest? Personally, I'm still siding with Lavaburst. It's got this odd aftertaste that I just can't overlook -- if I remember my Ecto Cooler correctly, it had the exact same punch. Tangergreen seems like the natural predecessor, but in reality, the difference between the two current flavors is almost too negligible to weigh. Few would find success in naming each for a blind taste test, so in terms of championing a "new" Ecto Cooler, it's really up to the specific person.

Mystery solved? Not quite, and maybe that's for the best. If there's one thing Ecto Cooler had going for it, it's that the beverage was truly one of a kind. Us fans might love the idea of being able to still drink it whenever we want, but the real stuff took a powder right along Slimer and his ghostbusting pals. Besides, just when you think you have the answers, further research brings more questions -- check out this Usenet post from early 2000; a response to an Ecto inquiry...

Subject: Re: Hi-C Ecto Cooler?
Newsgroup: alt.movies.ghostbusters
Date: 2000/05/14

"It is still made and still called Ecto-Cooler. The only difference is they have taken Slimer and replaced him with an orange surrounded by rings of some sort. I'm drinking one right now."

The plot thickens....

Posted by Matt on 08/04/2003. E-mail me!



Discussion Thread: 200 comments

When in doubt…go to eBay….

Someone is selling a bunch of old labels….including one for Ecto Coolers predecessor Citris Cooler in the can. Now someone with 9.00 burning a hole in their pocket can buy the lot, check the ingredients and compare them to the two challangers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3620524879&category=1526

Chestnuts roasted by Garrison @ 08/04/2003 8:38 PM


Wow…and we thought Matt was a genius for selling a jar of dirt on eBay. This guy is actually selling his garbage.

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/04/2003 8:42 PM


I don’t remember Ecto respectfully (damn mother never let me have juice boxes!!!), but let me say, Matt is a damn fine hottie!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Dinkadoo(Yes, I AM a girl...) @ 08/04/2003 8:57 PM


Nothing whatsoever to do with Ecto Cooler, but last week I mentioned the weird synchronicity of certain articles on X-E (Matt did the Hulksicle vs. Spongebobsicle article, and then about a couple weeks later they appeared together in the flea market article).

Now it’s happened again…after his Animal Farm article caused a flurry of excitement over rock pencils, Matt republishes his Within the Woods article…WHICH CONTAINS A MENTION OF ROCK PENCILS!

Is Matt doing this on purpose? Does his slacky exterior hide a brilliant, deconstructionist mind? Is a higher power guiding the direction of this website? Am I just going nuts waiting for the clock to tick off these last three minutes so I can leave work and go home and eat chili?

Chestnuts roasted by Hellpop! @ 08/04/2003 8:58 PM


Damn, Dinkadoo bet me to it. Matt, you are a sexy, sexy, sexy beast. This is why you should be on VH1. Then people can admire you and Mo Rocca, side by side in sexyness. Though I do miss your red-tipped hair and sunglasses. It was all hot and mysterious.

Also, I tasted Orange Lavaburst, and… forgive me… thought it tasted awful.

Chestnuts roasted by Melanie @ 08/04/2003 9:32 PM


PROOF

http://home.earthlink.net/~tonycaputo/now/hi-c.html

Ecto Cooler pictures Slimer, Oranges, AAAAAAND Tangerines. Tangergreen is the new Ecto Cooler. Make what you want of the comic. It looks like it starts out orange and then Slimer shits in it, turning it green?

Chestnuts roasted by David @ 08/04/2003 10:13 PM


I concur. I have had many pleasant daydreams about tearing Matt’s clothing off ever since I first discovered this site in April.

Matt keeps me warm on the long, cold nights.

Chestnuts roasted by freakachu (also a girl) @ 08/04/2003 10:17 PM


Did someone say TAB! heh i found some tab for real cheep at this kosher place a year ago… was ecto cooler kosher they might have some.

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 10:24 PM


Like anyone cares whether or not we’re girls…?

I don’t think the gazillions of guys (and probably same amount of girls) care about ripping off poor Matt’s clothes. He’s got a three headed gypsy girlfriend to do that. We’re here about the fucking ECTOCOOLER!!!

Which, I concur, I also miss.

Chestnuts roasted by Otaku Queen @ 08/04/2003 10:26 PM


I wish my name were Ecto-Cooler.

I vaguely remember the drink, but I do think it resurfaced later, in one way or another.

Chestnuts roasted by BaronKrusha @ 08/04/2003 10:48 PM


I’m probably one of the few who sincerely didn’t like Ecto-Cooler. I was, am, and always will be a pop kinda guy.

Chestnuts roasted by dude42 @ 08/04/2003 10:49 PM


""I can’t tell you if the stuff is still around today, but I’m old enough to remember what it was called before it was Ecto cooler. It used to be called just plain "Citrus cooler," but it was the exact same taste and same luminous green color. The stuff looked like antifreeze but damn was it tasty.""

I was just about to bring this up. Citrus Cooler came along in the "who put the straw campaign" (remember when they put in the bendy straws and had that stupid video with the kid in the leather jacket singing the rama-lama-ding-dong song but to HI – C… Who was that man, I’d like to shake his hand, he made my HI -C cooler then before yeaaaaaaaaaaah) Sorry, way too much pot in highschool, only thing I can remember is bad stuff from the 80′s….. ANYWAY Citrus cooler was green, in the box and out of the box. Ector cooler started green in the box, with an orange straw (and the taste was more tangerello (mini hybrids of Oranges and Tangerings) I think that’s thier name, or similar) Later down the line, they got rid of the color and switched to a green straw to keep the illusion, but they still used the green in the larger ammounts. Hell, I can still remember buying HI – C in the cans ^^ Definately green to start, and I tried both new versions, and if you want the original, mix them together (2 to 1 screaming orange) and add some green food coloring (vodka optional)

Chestnuts roasted by Toxikfoxx @ 08/04/2003 10:55 PM


Jared… nobody said Tab.

Matt? Hottie? Really now? I guess I’m just not gay.

BTW, Matt, I’ve nominated you for SGC2C. Figured I mentioned every other name I could think of, so, if Williams Street is givin’ you the call, it’s my fault. I really think that would be a respectable TV debut. But what we really need is X-E, 9/8 central.

Today, the newspapers, tommorrow…

THE WORLD!!!

Chestnuts roasted by "MR. GAME & WATCH" @ 08/04/2003 10:57 PM


hmm I remember going to my cousins house drinking ecto cooler and watching ren and stimpy I was a messy eater and I usually ended up with green stains on my clothes from the stuff

Chestnuts roasted by iLikePandas @ 08/04/2003 10:57 PM


The MinuteMade website has info on hi-c so check it out. http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_products/hic-7b.html

Chestnuts roasted by Dantheman @ 08/04/2003 11:20 PM


I completely forgot about the canned Ecto Cooler. I’ll never forgive myself!

I’m really curious, now. I’m going to have to scour the groceries until I can quench my thirst. FOR TRUTH.

Chestnuts roasted by Frieccolo @ 08/05/2003 12:08 PM


So let’s get this straight. Big jugs were green. Little cartons eventually lost this fabled hue.

Sorry, I hate repetition, but then I never had Ecto drinkies because I am in confounded England ^"^

The most amusing thing I ever did find was in San Francisco. Crackers called "Cheesy Nips" (I have piercings that get like that). Such a sophisticated sense of humour…

Chestnuts roasted by Devetaki @ 08/05/2003 12:09 PM


Let Me Holla At Cha Playa.
Now hear dis. Since we’re all in dis together and we got so much Unity, we need to form a campaign. You see I have been cheated. Hoodwinked and Bamboozled. Beelee day playa. You see, yesterday I found my fine self (don’t haterize) in White-Aid. Or as ya’lls call it Rite-Aid. And I bought myself a box of Incredible Hilk Ice Pop. Beelee dat playa. You see Nate, I believe the Green People’s character has been assassinated too. Beelee dat playa. And Let me tell you something playa. I done been cheated out of my FREE!!! Hulk Collectible card not once, but dis most definatly be da second time. Beelee dat play. So what we need to do is call ya govna, call ya maya, dammit call da presdent and tell him about this needless persecution of the Black Man by Wh…er Rite-Aid and gimmie my damn Hulk Card. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/05/2003 12:31 PM


I don’t know why you’re all fretting about Ecto Cooler…it was great(and very green) in it’s day, but now Vanilla Coke, nectar of the Gods, rules this planet.

Chestnuts roasted by Booyah Josh @ 08/05/2003 12:44 PM


Yup, that Matt is a heart-throb.

Oh, and uhm… Ecto Cooler… was green. *relevant comment*

Chestnuts roasted by Melanie @ 08/05/2003 12:45 PM


Glad to see that my theory and experience have been proven by those in the know. Whew. Guess I’m not hallucinating.

Chestnuts roasted by Silkenray @ 08/05/2003 12:58 PM


Ecto cooler is made out of PEOPLE!!! IT’S PEOPLE!!!!

Chestnuts roasted by Evil Matt @ 08/05/2003 2:17 AM


why don’t you compare the ingredients of lavaburst and tangergreen to those of ecto cooler? unless of course that’s too easy…

also, all hi-c is piss yellow now; note the "won’t stain!" packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by blahhhhhhh @ 08/05/2003 2:45 AM


No tab oh poop :(

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/05/2003 2:51 AM


Please, fruit Juices like Hi-C is highly undrinkable. Cola’s much better.

Chestnuts roasted by BoogiePop Phantom @ 08/05/2003 3:41 AM


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