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The Ecto Cooler Saga CONTINUES…

I promise, this is the last time I'll ever write about Ecto Cooler. Bear with me. I'm obsessed.

You might remember this post from late June, where I mentioned Hi-C's "Orange Lavaburst" flavor as being a reincarnated Ecto Cooler. I didn't solve the mystery myself, but after repeatedly reading fans' cries, I gave the fruity juice a shot and agreed. From where I sat -- in a broken chair littered with cig burns and what appeared to be nail polish -- Orange Lavaburst was Ecto Cooler. Or was it?

For those who've forgotten, "Ecto Cooler" was a Hi-C juice brand with Slimer of The Real Ghostbusters fame on the box. Though Hi-C has gotten a bit wackier with their flavor names over the years, Ecto Cooler was the first "novelty" drink in the line. Kids went nuts for the shit. This was a fad that transcended our usual young geeky interests, as children didn't really have to be into toys or cartoons to get down with the Ecto. Regardless of what you felt about Ghostbusters, few were going to skip the one juice box with a mysteriously vague name and a green monster on the box.

The beverage outlived all other Ghostbusters novelties, delivering Slimer to a generation of kids who'd barely even heard of his offshoot cartoon. Unfortunately, like Chris Elliot sitcoms and "Quackers" snack crackers, all good things come to an end. Ecto Cooler eventually disappeared, leaving behind a legion of fans who weren't quite ready to give up a taste they'd inadvertently become addicted to. We bought the juice because of Slimer, but somewhere along the way, we got hooked on the flavor.

That's where it gets interesting...

I claimed that "Orange Lavaburst" was Ecto Cooler Version II, and many seemed to agree. Others were skeptical, and with good reason. They argued that Ecto Cooler was back, but not as Orange Lavaburst. No, if these naysayers were to be believed, Ecto Cooler was reborn as an entirely different brand of Hi-C juice. Today, we experiment to uncover the truth. Which current Hi-C flavor is really Ecto Cooler?

According to some, "Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen" is the new Ecto Cooler. Their many arguments include the following:

1) Shoutin' Tangergreen has a strong emphasis on...well, "green." Ostensibly, "green" equals "Slimer."

2) Many remember Ecto Cooler as having "tangerine" as part of the flavor cornucopia. Shoutin' Tangergreen shares that trait, Orange Lavaburst does not. :P

3) Lavaburst's "box icon" is a simple orange. Tangergreen's icon is a ghastly, deep green "mouth." Obviously, green mouths seem more in tune with Slimer than a silly orange.

Admittedly, I seem to recall viewing a few Ecto Cooler ads in print that played up the citrus mix of oranges and tangerines. This factored with the new flavor's "green scheme" painted my previous posts as efforts in STUPAD IGNORAAAACE, but hey, let's find out for sure this time. Here's the listed ingredients for both flavors, with the differences highlighted in bold...

Orange Lavaburst: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange And Tangerine Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

So, what have we established? Aside from a modicum of tangerine juice, they're exactly the same. I refuse to accept that the key to this mystery lies solely in a vial of concentrated tangerine juice, so our champion remains undetermined. Perhaps it's time we compared each flavor's color. If there's one thing people seem to remember about Ecto Cooler, it's the unmistakable neon green hue...

Hmmmm -- virtually no difference at all. In fact, I can't honestly say if Ecto Cooler itself was green. The ads certainly suggested that, but edibles are often "dolled up" for those campaigns. Plus, I've seen firsthand that even the truly "colored" Hi-C flavors lose their sheen after a given amount of time. To avoid staining rugs and clothes, Minute Maid never added the type of food dyes you've grown accustomed to with something like, say, M&Ms. The tint is almost always natural these days, and though I can't prove it, it's possible that Ecto Cooler was only "green" in our Father Time-sweetened memories. Or was it?! Again?!

The Star Trek Connection?

While I'll solemnly admit to spending a little too much time searching for information regarding the Juice in Question, my findings were few and far between. I've been doing this site for a long time, and I don't think many readers would deny that I've probably spent more time researching "that" generation's fads than most people. During my travels, I've learned that there's a tribute for just about anything. Even the truly obscure stuff usually has some free-hosted, five-year-old tribute if you look hard enough. Yet, there's very, very little about Ecto Cooler. Plus, the people who have written about it contradict each other with misshapen and sometimes incorrect recollections. For a fruit juice, there's a lot of intrigue attached to good ol' Ecto. I did find one trivia nugget, though:

In "Relics," an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, there's a futuristic cocktail known as "Aldebaran Whiskey." If the rumors are true, they used Ecto Cooler as a prop to illustrate the whiskey's green hue.

A ha! So it was green after all! You know what this means, right? Even if Shoutin' Tangergreen or Orange Lavaburst perfectly mimic Slimer's sludge in taste, neither are true clones. As you can see in the above pic, they're both pale piss yellow.

But which of the two comes the closest? Personally, I'm still siding with Lavaburst. It's got this odd aftertaste that I just can't overlook -- if I remember my Ecto Cooler correctly, it had the exact same punch. Tangergreen seems like the natural predecessor, but in reality, the difference between the two current flavors is almost too negligible to weigh. Few would find success in naming each for a blind taste test, so in terms of championing a "new" Ecto Cooler, it's really up to the specific person.

Mystery solved? Not quite, and maybe that's for the best. If there's one thing Ecto Cooler had going for it, it's that the beverage was truly one of a kind. Us fans might love the idea of being able to still drink it whenever we want, but the real stuff took a powder right along Slimer and his ghostbusting pals. Besides, just when you think you have the answers, further research brings more questions -- check out this Usenet post from early 2000; a response to an Ecto inquiry...

Subject: Re: Hi-C Ecto Cooler?
Newsgroup: alt.movies.ghostbusters
Date: 2000/05/14

"It is still made and still called Ecto-Cooler. The only difference is they have taken Slimer and replaced him with an orange surrounded by rings of some sort. I'm drinking one right now."

The plot thickens....

Posted by Matt on 08/04/2003. E-mail me!



Discussion Thread: 200 comments

I looked on google also. Everyone seems to remember it was being green. There’s a bartending site, and all the drinks refering to ‘ecto cooler’ are made to turn out green… however they are using lemon/lime mix…

I also found a forum with several ecto cooler threads. Some morons actually think the fruit punch is the next ecto cooler… other’s are debating over the orange vs. tangerine-green flavors just like here.

Chestnuts roasted by Lynn @ 08/04/2003 2:36 PM


If anyone wants to inundate Minute Maid, the makers of HI-C, w/ phone calls, their number is
1-888-884-8952.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 2:47 PM


Does anyone have any pics of any old ecto cooler juice boxes? If we could only find out the exact ingredients, we could tell which juice is THE juice.

Chestnuts roasted by LioConvoy @ 08/04/2003 2:52 PM


I contacted Hi-C through email, you all can too! http://www.minutemaid.com/mm_contact/index.html
Choose Hi-C under brand.

Chestnuts roasted by Clay @ 08/04/2003 2:57 PM


Matt- Does that store you bought the Bubble Gum Hi-C have any Ecto Cooler?

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 3:01 PM


Matt knows there are two different kinds of juices. The jugs and the boxes. They even have slightly different tastes.(same thing with Pepsi Blue, he and I both agree)
When I was a youngster(I just turned 16), I remember getting the stuff for elementary school lunches. When I drank it out of the juicebox, it was…hmm…
Well, I remember contrasting colors. Either the straws were orange and the stuff was green or the straws were green and the stuff was light-yellow. I can’t provide much insight, but I definitely remember the boxes and even seeing it in its most recent packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by Omni @ 08/04/2003 3:10 PM


Just wanted to point out that Hi-C often leaves the coloring out in their juice boxes, in order to cut costs (hence why both drinks are pale yellow). If you want to compare colors, you’ll have to get a larger package (a bottle or… do they still package it in those giant cans? I love those).

I’ve had Ecto Cooler from the can, and it was very, very green. My brother and I would make little "cocktails" out of Ecto Cooler and Coke. If you pour the coke just right, it doesn’t mix together; instead, the Coke just sits on top of the Hi-C, giving it a very interesting look. Of course, it mixes together anyway the first time you tip it over to take a drink, but it’s interesting until then.

But I digress. The point is, if you want to compare colors, you’re going to have to use something other than the juice boxes.

And, old Usenet posts notwithstanding, I understand that Ecto Cooler was actually discontinued sometime in 2002.

Chestnuts roasted by HeartBurn Kid @ 08/04/2003 3:19 PM


Yep, You’ve gone crazy. :D

Chestnuts roasted by Syxx Pac @ 08/04/2003 3:26 PM


Is it just my computer,or are there white bars whos sole purpose is to cover half the picture?

Chestnuts roasted by Fhydra @ 08/04/2003 3:29 PM


Now that you mention them….there’s white bars on all my pics too. It’s like the government is blocking out the important ecto-info. Those bastards.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 3:37 PM


Let Me Holla At Cha Playa.
You know Matt, You’ve done many Articles on Ecto-Cooler. Color? Green. Beelee dat. You even done an article on Crystal Pepsi. Color? Clear, or so day would have you believe. Real color? White. Now I know you don’t be haterizing on Coke And Pepsi? You want Gimmicks? Nah dats not it. Beelee Dat playa. The reason there have been no articles on Coke And Pepsi? Color? Black. Beelee dat playa. I don’t see you Thuggin And Buggin On a big ole Bottle Of Vanilla Coke. I thought ya’lls would give an ounce of Respect cause it’s Black, wit a hint of Whitey. But not even da Vanilla Coke gets da respect of a whole article. Ya feel me? I’m gonna have to go back and tell all my Brothas to back off ya site man. Hateration without Reprezentation. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/04/2003 3:39 PM


Oh And as for da White Bars covering the pics, ya Conspiracy theory isn’t a theory. Beelee dat playa. White Bars. Just another way dat Whitey be holdin us back. Beelee dat playa.

Chestnuts roasted by Theodore R. Long @ 08/04/2003 3:43 PM


on the boxes in the pics it clearly states the reason for making the boxed kinds non-colored ^ "now, won’t stain". so you won’t spend your school day looking trash because you poked the straw too hard into the box.

Chestnuts roasted by nick @ 08/04/2003 4:00 PM


I want to have Theodore Long’s love child… but to tell you the truth, I’d much rather be Down With the Brown than I would Back the Mack.

Chestnuts roasted by Elmo Machete @ 08/04/2003 4:10 PM


ATTENTION: the only difference between the two is NOT just a vial of tangerine juice- there is one other discrepency between the ingredients you failed to realize…

NATURAL FLAVORS !!!!

it’s not the concentrated juice that changes it- it’s the NATURAL FLAVORS-

this is the most broad ingredient known to man! there’s hundreds of different NATURAL FLAVORS- and i’m sure they are QUIT DIFFERENT between the two-

YOU SeEK OUT THE LISTING OF WHAT SPECIFIC NATURAL FLAVORS THEY ARE… AND YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWER!

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 4:12 PM


elmo you are a serious dick

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 4:19 PM


Yep, I have no doubt in my mind that Ecto Cooler was green (I wonder if Theodore R. Long has anything to say about green people). I remember it being green. Plus it only makes sense that it was green. How else could you associate the product with Slimer other than by putting him on the box? (But then again, how else is Donald Duck associated with his own brand of orange juice other than by putting HIM on the can?) By making it taste like Slimer? I’m not sure what Slimer tastes like, but I’d hate to read the ingredients on something like Slimer-flavored Hi-C, and so tasting it would’ve been out of the question. But of course, I WAS a little kid then. And knowing how I was back then…

As you can clearly see, I still haven’t gotten over Ecto Cooler’s disappearance. Believe me, you would hate to see my therapy bill.

Chestnuts roasted by Nate @ 08/04/2003 4:21 PM


I can’t tell you if the stuff is still around today, but I’m old enough to remember what it was called before it was Ecto cooler. It used to be called just plain "Citrus cooler," but it was the exact same taste and same luminous green color. The stuff looked like antifreeze but damn was it tasty.

Chestnuts roasted by wampa 1 @ 08/04/2003 4:25 PM


me and my older brother argued about this, he remembers ecto cooler having a horrible color at school lunchs and I remember the vibrant green. we theorize that in the beginning it was the horrible piss color, but maybe to attract more buyers they started adding the green food coloring to the juice boxes too, thats just our theory. it seems as i it could be true due to the gap between him taking to to school to when I was old enough to pack some slimer.

Chestnuts roasted by jon voight penis @ 08/04/2003 4:25 PM


Okay, I remember very well ecto-cooler being green. An akward bright green color that makes you instantly think of slimer..at least it did for me. I remembered I dreaded drinking the green swill out of paper cups at birthday parties back in the day. I’m also Pretty sure it came in a juice bottle like the current juicy juice bottles.

Chestnuts roasted by Larko @ 08/04/2003 4:31 PM


HUZZAH!!!

Oh, and I think the white bars are there to block out a bit of the Hi-C boxes just enough so there is no copyright infringement laws being broken… Then again I could just be an enourmous tool with no real insight…Maybe Wise Man Matt will give us the answer.

Chestnuts roasted by The Ponderer @ 08/04/2003 4:32 PM


After I read the original article, I went out and bought some Lavaburst, and I have to say that it IS Ecto Cooler.

As for the color, Ecto Cooler was most definately green. No doubt about it.

Man, now you got me craving Hi-C again. I’m gonna have to go to the store and get some more! Darn you, Matt!

Chestnuts roasted by 005 @ 08/04/2003 4:35 PM


Ecto-cooler was green, but that can be accomplished with a little green food coloring. I bet Bitner can answer it all. He knows everything.

Chestnuts roasted by Bansheex @ 08/04/2003 4:43 PM


It was green, and for the person who was confused, the box straws were orange. Poured out the stuff looked cool, but going up through the orange straw it looked a little odd.

I only ever had the boxes, but we bought them by the cardboard caseload, and me and my brothers loved the stuff – I gotta try these wannabes and see which is closer to what i remember.

Oh, and Clear Tab rocked.

Chestnuts roasted by Sol @ 08/04/2003 5:06 PM


As a general point of reference for those who haven’t tasted the new flavors: Lavaburst actually tastes more like what you’d expect Tangergreen to taste like, and vice versa.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 5:07 PM


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