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The Ecto Cooler Saga CONTINUES…

I promise, this is the last time I'll ever write about Ecto Cooler. Bear with me. I'm obsessed.

You might remember this post from late June, where I mentioned Hi-C's "Orange Lavaburst" flavor as being a reincarnated Ecto Cooler. I didn't solve the mystery myself, but after repeatedly reading fans' cries, I gave the fruity juice a shot and agreed. From where I sat -- in a broken chair littered with cig burns and what appeared to be nail polish -- Orange Lavaburst was Ecto Cooler. Or was it?

For those who've forgotten, "Ecto Cooler" was a Hi-C juice brand with Slimer of The Real Ghostbusters fame on the box. Though Hi-C has gotten a bit wackier with their flavor names over the years, Ecto Cooler was the first "novelty" drink in the line. Kids went nuts for the shit. This was a fad that transcended our usual young geeky interests, as children didn't really have to be into toys or cartoons to get down with the Ecto. Regardless of what you felt about Ghostbusters, few were going to skip the one juice box with a mysteriously vague name and a green monster on the box.

The beverage outlived all other Ghostbusters novelties, delivering Slimer to a generation of kids who'd barely even heard of his offshoot cartoon. Unfortunately, like Chris Elliot sitcoms and "Quackers" snack crackers, all good things come to an end. Ecto Cooler eventually disappeared, leaving behind a legion of fans who weren't quite ready to give up a taste they'd inadvertently become addicted to. We bought the juice because of Slimer, but somewhere along the way, we got hooked on the flavor.

That's where it gets interesting...

I claimed that "Orange Lavaburst" was Ecto Cooler Version II, and many seemed to agree. Others were skeptical, and with good reason. They argued that Ecto Cooler was back, but not as Orange Lavaburst. No, if these naysayers were to be believed, Ecto Cooler was reborn as an entirely different brand of Hi-C juice. Today, we experiment to uncover the truth. Which current Hi-C flavor is really Ecto Cooler?

According to some, "Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen" is the new Ecto Cooler. Their many arguments include the following:

1) Shoutin' Tangergreen has a strong emphasis on...well, "green." Ostensibly, "green" equals "Slimer."

2) Many remember Ecto Cooler as having "tangerine" as part of the flavor cornucopia. Shoutin' Tangergreen shares that trait, Orange Lavaburst does not. :P

3) Lavaburst's "box icon" is a simple orange. Tangergreen's icon is a ghastly, deep green "mouth." Obviously, green mouths seem more in tune with Slimer than a silly orange.

Admittedly, I seem to recall viewing a few Ecto Cooler ads in print that played up the citrus mix of oranges and tangerines. This factored with the new flavor's "green scheme" painted my previous posts as efforts in STUPAD IGNORAAAACE, but hey, let's find out for sure this time. Here's the listed ingredients for both flavors, with the differences highlighted in bold...

Orange Lavaburst: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

Shoutin' Orange Tangergreen: Pure Filtered Water, Sweeteners (High Fructose Corn Syrup, Sugar), Orange And Tangerine Juice From Concentrate, Less Than 0.5% Of Each: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Natural Flavors, Potassium Citrate (Regulates Tartness), Citric Acid (Provides Tartness).

So, what have we established? Aside from a modicum of tangerine juice, they're exactly the same. I refuse to accept that the key to this mystery lies solely in a vial of concentrated tangerine juice, so our champion remains undetermined. Perhaps it's time we compared each flavor's color. If there's one thing people seem to remember about Ecto Cooler, it's the unmistakable neon green hue...

Hmmmm -- virtually no difference at all. In fact, I can't honestly say if Ecto Cooler itself was green. The ads certainly suggested that, but edibles are often "dolled up" for those campaigns. Plus, I've seen firsthand that even the truly "colored" Hi-C flavors lose their sheen after a given amount of time. To avoid staining rugs and clothes, Minute Maid never added the type of food dyes you've grown accustomed to with something like, say, M&Ms. The tint is almost always natural these days, and though I can't prove it, it's possible that Ecto Cooler was only "green" in our Father Time-sweetened memories. Or was it?! Again?!

The Star Trek Connection?

While I'll solemnly admit to spending a little too much time searching for information regarding the Juice in Question, my findings were few and far between. I've been doing this site for a long time, and I don't think many readers would deny that I've probably spent more time researching "that" generation's fads than most people. During my travels, I've learned that there's a tribute for just about anything. Even the truly obscure stuff usually has some free-hosted, five-year-old tribute if you look hard enough. Yet, there's very, very little about Ecto Cooler. Plus, the people who have written about it contradict each other with misshapen and sometimes incorrect recollections. For a fruit juice, there's a lot of intrigue attached to good ol' Ecto. I did find one trivia nugget, though:

In "Relics," an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, there's a futuristic cocktail known as "Aldebaran Whiskey." If the rumors are true, they used Ecto Cooler as a prop to illustrate the whiskey's green hue.

A ha! So it was green after all! You know what this means, right? Even if Shoutin' Tangergreen or Orange Lavaburst perfectly mimic Slimer's sludge in taste, neither are true clones. As you can see in the above pic, they're both pale piss yellow.

But which of the two comes the closest? Personally, I'm still siding with Lavaburst. It's got this odd aftertaste that I just can't overlook -- if I remember my Ecto Cooler correctly, it had the exact same punch. Tangergreen seems like the natural predecessor, but in reality, the difference between the two current flavors is almost too negligible to weigh. Few would find success in naming each for a blind taste test, so in terms of championing a "new" Ecto Cooler, it's really up to the specific person.

Mystery solved? Not quite, and maybe that's for the best. If there's one thing Ecto Cooler had going for it, it's that the beverage was truly one of a kind. Us fans might love the idea of being able to still drink it whenever we want, but the real stuff took a powder right along Slimer and his ghostbusting pals. Besides, just when you think you have the answers, further research brings more questions -- check out this Usenet post from early 2000; a response to an Ecto inquiry...

Subject: Re: Hi-C Ecto Cooler?
Newsgroup: alt.movies.ghostbusters
Date: 2000/05/14

"It is still made and still called Ecto-Cooler. The only difference is they have taken Slimer and replaced him with an orange surrounded by rings of some sort. I'm drinking one right now."

The plot thickens....

Posted by Matt on 08/04/2003. E-mail me!



Discussion Thread: 200 comments

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I’m no so sure about this idea of Ectocooler actually being green. Now I admit that my memories of the stuff are a little hazy, but I seem to recall being disappointed as a child that the juice wasn’t actually green and in fact was just juice colored. Of course, there is also the possiblity that it was green originally, but was later changed to just its natural color.

Chestnuts roasted by Rob @ 08/04/2003 11:50 AM


I don’t know what to say… let’s call hi-C

Chestnuts roasted by chad @ 08/04/2003 11:51 AM


For the last 4 years, I have worked in a Supermarket part-time. When I first started working there (Fall 1999), Ecto-Cooler was STILL on the shelf. All connections to Ghostbusters and Slimer had been removed, replaced by an orange and a cow smiling. Now however, even that is off the shelf.

Chestnuts roasted by Chuck Smith @ 08/04/2003 11:55 AM


I remember when I was a kid passing the cooler aisles where the gallons of juice were kept, and more than once noting that the Ecto Cooler was bright neon green. Maybe they changed the color later on, but in the clear gallon jugs, there was no mistaking that color.

Chestnuts roasted by Evil Killer Poptarts @ 08/04/2003 12:13 PM


No, the shit WAS green….that was what was so aluring…that green necter flowing through the crappy little straw…

Chestnuts roasted by Bifflog @ 08/04/2003 12:15 PM


Hmm… I remember drinking the stuff when I was little, but that’s all. I haven’t had a Hi-C in years, so I’ll have to talk your words on it about the taste.

Chestnuts roasted by Mr. Mr. Mr. @ 08/04/2003 12:15 PM


Matt, this is going to sound completely stupid, but its true. There are two kinds of Hi-C, those that are made for the large jugs, and those made for juice boxes. The jugs have food colouring, the boxes do not. So all this talk of natural colors is just the batch they use for boxes, not jugs. To see if tangergreen is really green, you’ll have to find a jug, it bet a lot of cash that it is.

Chestnuts roasted by Devin Butler @ 08/04/2003 12:19 PM


You would think that if so many people remember this one particular brand of JUICE BOXES…that there is still a market for Ecto-Cooler…

Chestnuts roasted by Bifflog @ 08/04/2003 12:20 PM


And so the saga continues — I’ll fetch a jug of Tangergreen next time we go shopping.

Chestnuts roasted by Matt @ 08/04/2003 12:20 PM


I totally remember ecto cooler as being green in the box.

you know whats a shame, i remember plenty of kinds who had the perennial fruit punch mustache, but not a single one who ever had an ecto-cooler ‘stache. i guess ecto was more of a juice box thing.

Chestnuts roasted by julia badtouch @ 08/04/2003 12:42 PM


no no no! it was green I tells ya through the straw in the jugs it was green, I can even remember as a kid (I’m 19 now)having an argument with my older sister insisting the shit was green, so we did a lil test and low and behold it was green I’ll never forget it.

Chestnuts roasted by thefatkid @ 08/04/2003 12:51 PM


Yeah, Dev’s right. After you’re first article, with the pic of the unboxed Orange Lavaburster, I went to the store and noticed a jug of it, only it was unmistakably orange in color.

By the way, you are a God. Google imploded when I tried to search for the elusive Ecto.

Chestnuts roasted by The Ponderer @ 08/04/2003 12:54 PM


I tend to find that if you ask the right people the right questions, you will get the answers you are looking for.

Ok. So Coca-Cola owns Hi-C. I would suggest calling coca-cola’s product information line and ask around to find out how you can get INFO on the various HI-C products. Now I’m sure they aren’t going to want to talk about some product that’s over 10 years old. But I’m sure you can request some kind of information regarding Ecto-cooler.

The info is out there. You just have to want it bad. How bad do you want it Matt? Hell I’ll do some research if you want.

Chestnuts roasted by sknyluv @ 08/04/2003 1:07 PM


Matt, man, I know this has nothing to do with Ecto Cooler (yeah, um, I hate juice… sorry, all), but I gotta ask- you planning on getting this new Unicron Transformer? I know you hate the Armada stuff, but I seem to remember some article where you mentioned really wanting a Unicron figure, and this new one looks pretty damn similar to the version from the movie. Just curious.

Chestnuts roasted by The Lucky One @ 08/04/2003 1:32 PM


Scotty and Picard drink Ecto cooler ??? Now my plans to construct a spacecraft and slingshot it around the sun so I can travel in time now has more meaning. Now my incentive is so I can get some ecto cooler. Then I can pretend I am drinking Aldebaren whisky! . . . God I need a life.

Chestnuts roasted by Gozer @ 08/04/2003 1:40 PM


It would seem that the only real way to solve the mystery would be to compare the ingredients the these two flavors with Ecto-Cooler’s ingredients.

Chestnuts roasted by Aaron Ackerson @ 08/04/2003 1:41 PM


I know the red juices are red in the boxes too because I remember squirting a girl with the red type and getting her white dress all red….

but maybe now they do it clear, and colored depending on jug/box packaging.

Chestnuts roasted by chad @ 08/04/2003 1:51 PM


So . . . is Slimer Catholic? I have to write a paper on a Catholic I admire for Sunday School, and if Slimer isn’t a Catholic, I’ll have to go with my first choice: The Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase.

Chestnuts roasted by Woolhouse @ 08/04/2003 2:00 PM


Yeah, I do seem to remember a time right before Ecto went away completely when they still called it Ecto, but no Slimer.

Chestnuts roasted by Static_A_Matic @ 08/04/2003 2:06 PM


Yes, the Hi-C’s used to be coloured in the box. Not any more. Almost no juice box is coloured anymore. Capri Sun isn’t, the only ones that are are the ones where you can see the drink through the packaging. As for all the "No it was orange I remember seeing come through the straw" comments, even before hi-c quit adding color to the boxes (to save money) the straws wave been opaque orange.
God – I know way too much about juice boxes.

Chestnuts roasted by Devin Butler @ 08/04/2003 2:09 PM


Watch out — even calling the company, as some have suggested, might not yield correct information, as many PR reps are ill-informed about the details of company products, particularly older merchandise. Such a call could put an end to the debate, of course, but I’m just issuing an advance warning to not instantly accept it as the ultimate truth.

And I’ve not yet sampled the Tangergreen, but I will say this: Lavaburst is not Ectocooler. I’d bet my life on it. The taste just isn’t quite the same…

Chestnuts roasted by J64 @ 08/04/2003 2:27 PM


Ecto cooler was definitely green.
I remember making green cocktails w/ it.

Chestnuts roasted by mutton72 @ 08/04/2003 2:28 PM


First of all HOLY SHIT ITS A PIC OF MATT other then that it defantly was green, i rember in like the 4th grade when my mom would pack me my lunch she would buy the 4 pack of eco cooler in the boxes. so everyday i would hope for one, then when id get it id drink it all real fast and get that tangy high you always get from those juices.>_< (i miss it so)

Chestnuts roasted by Jared @ 08/04/2003 2:30 PM


I have a bunch of Hi-C boxes left over from that old Nintendo promotion. I think Mario was the mascot of the Orange Lababurst stuff.

Is there a Mario/Slimer connection? A conspiracy theory for the ages…

Chestnuts roasted by Freezair @ 08/04/2003 2:33 PM


HIS NAME IS JARED, AND HE LOST IT AT SUBWAY… Jesus, dude, there’s pics of Matt all over the site.

Chestnuts roasted by Elmo Machete @ 08/04/2003 2:33 PM


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